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Some Drugs Work To Treat Depression, But It Isn't Clear How
The Wall Street Journal Online ^ | November 18, 2005 | SHARON BEGLEY

Posted on 11/21/2005 2:45:45 PM PST by Jenny Hatch

"There is only one problem. "Not a single peer-reviewed article ... support[s] claims of serotonin deficiency in any mental disorder," scientists write in the December issue of the journal PLoS Medicine.

Indeed, a steady drip of studies have challenged the "serotonin did it" hypothesis."

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: antidepressants
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Interesting article,

Here is the chat on the original PloS Essay:

Serotonin and Depression: A Disconnect between the Advertisements and the Scientific Literature

Jenny Hatch

1 posted on 11/21/2005 2:45:46 PM PST by Jenny Hatch
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Here`s another interesting link:

http://www.drugawareness.org/home.html


2 posted on 11/21/2005 2:54:42 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Jenny Hatch
Most people treated for depression get pills rather than psychotherapy

Speaking for myself, I'd sooner trust the pills than a psychotherapist. I thought that most of Freud's theories have been refuted. Oh yes, I know, but there are others (waiting to be refuted, or pass into the sunset as the fashionable fads they are.)

The relapse rate for patients on pills is higher than for those getting cognitive-behavior psychotherapy.

It's hard to believe, isn't it, but then may be some people just need someone to talk to, and nothing else...

3 posted on 11/21/2005 2:56:10 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Revolting cat!
Clerk at store: Is this for depression?
Me, about to pay $89 for some Prozac, circa 1993: Yeah.
Clerk: Look at the price, get depressed.
4 posted on 11/21/2005 3:28:51 PM PST by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. Semper Fi)
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To: Revolting cat!

Many of these psychologists have more problems than the ones they pretend to help. There are however some good ones.


5 posted on 11/21/2005 3:30:38 PM PST by mel
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To: Revolting cat!
I firmly believe that everyone who goes into Psychology/Psychiatry does so to try to figure out what's wrong with themselves.

One counselor I was assigned to got in trouble for having sex with a client, then threatening her if she told anyone. He was found not guilty, but he no longer works for the place.

6 posted on 11/21/2005 3:34:11 PM PST by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. Semper Fi)
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To: Jenny Hatch

If you have never suffered through a lifetime of clincial depression, taken anti-depressants or gone through therapy... your opinion doesn't count.


7 posted on 11/21/2005 3:46:46 PM PST by WarPaint (Crush Islam)
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To: Revolting cat!

I suspect more exercise would do the trick but I'm just too damn lazy.


8 posted on 11/21/2005 3:53:53 PM PST by bkepley
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To: Jenny Hatch

*yawn* Aspirin was used for many decades before we understood how it works.


9 posted on 11/21/2005 3:56:06 PM PST by null and void (The enemy of my enemy is my tool...)
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To: Jenny Hatch

10 posted on 11/21/2005 3:58:55 PM PST by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: null and void
Yes, but it doesn't cause you to commit suicide or shoot up a school full of children. Its true that aspirin could not get through the FDA today even though studies would show it to be helpful if not curative. SSDI's simply change chemical patterns in ones brain is somewhat random patterns. The more educated you are about the research on these the more you have to admit that they don't know what the hell they are doing - and this is what the researchers themselves say.

What happened to 'DO NOT HARM FIRST?' You give somebody a drug that 'might' change their symptoms but isn't a cure for anything and there is a good possibility that it may also cause side effects which could kill you or others? What else situation would that be logical or legal? Off the top of my head, I can't think of a good one but I'm sure there is an equal level of stupidity going on in other industries. Its one of the reasons that Microsoft isn't allowed to create drugs!!! They wouldn't always do what they were supposed to do and they could also risk crashing your nervous system and giving you terminal viruses.

11 posted on 11/21/2005 4:17:48 PM PST by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: Jenny Hatch

12 posted on 11/21/2005 4:18:09 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: Revolting cat!

Problem with most therapists could be that most of them active members of moveon.org


13 posted on 11/21/2005 4:31:37 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: bpjam
It's usually the sudden suspension of SSRI's that cause problems.

For me SSRI's are quite literally a life saver.

YMMV.
14 posted on 11/21/2005 4:57:38 PM PST by null and void (The enemy of my enemy is my tool...)
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To: Jenny Hatch
You can't measure serotonin in the brains of living human beings.

Sez who. Forceps!
15 posted on 11/21/2005 9:01:01 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: real saxophonist

Chocolate is cheaper.


16 posted on 11/21/2005 9:02:47 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: null and void

The only thing more dangerous than starting SSRI's is stopping them. But fortunately, they all tell you that there is no addiction and there are no withdrawal symptoms (believe them at your own risk).


17 posted on 11/22/2005 2:00:53 PM PST by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: bpjam

May I ask if you are a Scientologist?


18 posted on 11/22/2005 2:02:31 PM PST by null and void (The enemy of my enemy is my tool...)
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To: WarPaint

The only time I have been very depressed was after my son died. Pretty normal reaction. After 3 years I was still struggling and my doctor prescribed Prozac. Three weeks on Prozac and it was like the sun came out after a long storm. My son was still dead, nothing changed there, but I was able to get back into my life. I didn't even finish the prescription. I will say for some people they are the answer.

My husband, on the other hand took them for mild depression (years later) and he became almost suicidal.


19 posted on 11/22/2005 2:12:06 PM PST by Ditter
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To: null and void

Sure, why not? My Rabbi doesn't mind and neither would the people I got off of these drugs when I spent years working in a rehab facility.


20 posted on 11/27/2005 12:03:23 PM PST by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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