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Why Woodward's Source Came Clean
Time.com ^ | Friday, Nov 18, 2005 | Viveca Novak

Posted on 11/18/2005 1:58:52 PM PST by YaYa123

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To: Orblivion

He said 'This is what I need, I don't need any more.'"

In other words, "If you know something that will hurt democrats, I don't want to know...but if you have something that will hurt Bush, then by all means TELL IT."


61 posted on 11/19/2005 8:41:36 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV
And what about the Conservatives who have Vilified Woodward for the last 34 years?

What about us? Woodward was backed into a corner by his source. At least this time, his source is conscious.

62 posted on 11/19/2005 8:47:40 AM PST by AmishDude (Mathematics -- better than science, harder than science, and always true. Always.)
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To: YaYa123

More eveidence that Fitzgerald conducted an incomplete and one track investigation.
He only spoke with Wilson twice and did not feel the need to put him before the grand jury.

" But it is the first time Woodward had contact with Fitzgerald,
even though Woodward's name shows up on various White House officials' calendars, phone logs and other records during June and July, 2003,
the time frame that is critical to determining whether a crime was committed when information about Plame's employment was shared with reporters.
Those White House records were turned over to Fitzgerald long ago."

" Woodward expressed some surprise that Fitzgerald hadn't contacted him earlier in the probe, ..."


63 posted on 11/19/2005 8:53:57 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: caseinpoint

Looks like you landed in a good spot. Keep up the good work.


64 posted on 11/19/2005 9:27:55 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: BushCountry

Nixon himself probably had no knowledge of the burglary which was part of a "dirty tricks" political assault orchestrated by Gordon Liddy et al. to see if there was any salacious material in the files on Dem operatives. What did Nixon in was his eventual obstruction of justice, subornation to perjury, and - of course - the tapes he made himself that proved his own complicity! This resulted in his resignation to avoid impeachment. After his resignation Gerald Ford was asked if the resignation was a tacit admission of guilt by the president -- and even Ford said "Yes". Nixon had no knowledge of the burglary but became an active participant in the coverup of a crime -- which is a crime!


65 posted on 11/19/2005 9:39:38 AM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: Orblivion
He said 'This is what I need, I don't need any more.'"

This shows a clear lack of imagination, investigative curiosity, and concludes that this prosecutor had preconceived ideas. Anything not fitting his "model" completely upsets his closed-minded applecart.

66 posted on 11/19/2005 9:51:01 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: T.L.Sink
The funny thing about this though, is that the journalists and liberals are perpetuating this story, the core of which is actually: Why did Plame and her boss put Wilson on this case -- what didn't he really know and why did he pretend to?
67 posted on 11/19/2005 9:55:36 AM PST by unspun (unspun.info | What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: YaYa123

bump


68 posted on 11/19/2005 10:11:21 AM PST by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: Sam Hill; kcvl; Mo1
In the course of his reporting, Woodward says, "I learned something more" about the disclosure of Plame's identity...

Interesting.

69 posted on 11/19/2005 10:18:08 AM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not an exit strategy." ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV
And what about the Conservatives who have Vilified Woodward for the last 34 years?

They have been replaced with outraged liberal journalists!

Ain't life grand?

70 posted on 11/19/2005 10:18:54 AM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not an exit strategy." ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: Howlin
In the course of his reporting, Woodward says, "I learned something more" about the disclosure of Plame's identity...

Hmmmmm ... could this be what Wilson was referring to when he said it was a "conflict of interest" ??

71 posted on 11/19/2005 10:33:57 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Howlin

"Woodward said he had tried twice before, once in 2004 and once earlier this year, to persuade the source to remove the confidentiality restriction, but with no success."

What a load.

If this was a potential crime (as Fitzgerald was treating it), then it is obstruction of justice not to come forward.

One of the many ironies lost in all of this, is that under the law you can't use the claim that some information is "classified" to hide a crime.

It was thanks to Woodward as much as anybody else that we have that law.

And here he is hiding behind some made-up journalistic privilege to hide a crime. (Not that it was a crime.)

And never mind that Libby could go to jail for up to thirty years. What a travesty this all is.


72 posted on 11/19/2005 10:43:12 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: unspun

The 11/21 issue of National Review magazine has a picture of Wilson on the cover and the words "Dishonest Joe" below. Joe Wilson is such a professional prevaricator that it's had to disentangle his lies. He first stated that his CIA wife had no role in his being sent to Niger. The 9/11 commission produced written evidence that she did. Another unanswered question is why this has-been diplomat who had absolutely no expertise in his supposed area of investigation was even sent. To further complicate matters his report from Niger was contradictory! On the one hand he asserted that it was unlikely that Niger had ever agreed to sell uranium to Saddam. But he also said that an Iraqi envoy approached the prime minister of Niger in the late 90's with that very intention. Wilson also said that his report had reached the vice president's desk. That also turned out to be false and it's been proven that the CIA never briefed Cheney on Wilson's report. It's been pretty well substantiated that Valerie was not "covert" and that dozens of reporters and others in the DC social circuit knew that she worked for the CIA - even Andrea Mitchell who now - in Wilsonesque fashion - is trying to backtrack. On top of all this it now is a fact that Fitzgerald's claim that Libby was one of the "first" to have known about Plame has been rendered highly doubtful by Bob Woodward. The truth is that there now appears to have been serious omissions in Fitzgerald's two year investigation which has been more about the criminalization of politics than "outing" a CIA covert. And, even before Woodward absolutely NO ONE had been charged with that -- which was the whole purpose of the investigation!! If we want to spend time and money tracing leaks we'd be better off finding out who in the government endangered national security by leaking classified information on overseas bases to the Washington Post.


73 posted on 11/19/2005 10:46:55 AM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: virgil

"I don't think the press is independent anymore."


Well, that has always been true. The media was always about making money and accumulating power. The Hearst regime is one of the old examples. But individual reporters tended not to inject their own biases into the stories quite so proudly as they do now--except they don't consider it bias, they think it is just obvious truth, just as obvious as the law of gravity. In their orbit, reporters only hear one point of view.


74 posted on 11/19/2005 4:13:59 PM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Thanks. I gain a lot from the posters on this site.


75 posted on 11/19/2005 4:16:01 PM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: HawaiianGecko

Re#45 Yep. Although the universe of presstitutes potentially in the know was finite, Wilson stikes me as a glad handing wannabe that would tout his third wife to any that would listen. Fitz's determination (in light of his prosecutorial experience) to indict is inexplicable absent a Ronnie Earlesque agenda--which does not seem to fit (insert character witness Andrew McCarthy). Hence, I think he was gamed by the lying press and now knows it. We he now do the right thing? Time will tell...


76 posted on 11/19/2005 8:58:57 PM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties: Only 3 and 1/4 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: T.L.Sink
salacious material in the files on Dem operatives

Gordon Liddy knew that the Dems were running a high class prostitution ring out of the DNC Headquarters. There was a file with several pictures of the prostitutes and a listing of their specialities, along with contact numbers.

Liddy and others felt that this prostitution ring was a national security threat for blackmail and a variety of other reasons. The point is, that you can not go into court with dirty hands (a basic doctrine); the Dems hands were disgustingly dirty and the reason for the actual break-in has always been kept a deep dark secret by the media.

To this day, we don't know which Senators and Congressmen took advantage of services of this call-girl ring, if blackmail was involved, were any bedroom secrets given away in the heat of passion, was national security harmed, etc...

Trying to stop a prositution ring from being run out of your enemies' National Headquarters doesn't count as a "diry trick" in my book.

77 posted on 11/21/2005 10:39:03 AM PST by BushCountry (They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong.)
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