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1 posted on 11/18/2005 4:54:43 AM PST by TaxRelief
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To: TaxRelief

Well, I hope he follows through and there's no change in zoning and maybe the developer will move on. What's the point of zoning if developers can just operate with the assumption they'll change the use at their whim?


2 posted on 11/18/2005 4:58:01 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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I'm sick of these uppity developers. I think the town and the state should make his life more interesting.

Setting up a noxious business for spite should be punished.
3 posted on 11/18/2005 5:00:36 AM PST by George W. Bush
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The folks should embrace and celebrate the pig farm - just to piss him off more.


5 posted on 11/18/2005 5:10:03 AM PST by mommya
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May not be as easy as it once was, depending on the pounds of pork he might need a CAFO (Concentrated Animal Feeding Operation) permit, which is a hassle and takes time. Plus, no matter how many hogs he must contain/treat his run off. Plus he has to feed and house the squealers and their offspring, and sell them, the verticle integration of the pork market (tyson farrow to finish) makes this a challenge. The throw distance (1/2 mile) will require several porkers to work, one or two sows and a boar won't get it.

A fellow in the 'burbs of St Louis, on the otherhand, wanted to subdivide 40 (?) acres, the neighbors who joined him pitched a fit and blocked it, he was still zoned as farm land and due to the proximity was able to apply the Pork technique with minimal investment and maximum results.

On the other hand, if this guy can't spring $300k for site utilities he is a chump.
6 posted on 11/18/2005 5:12:24 AM PST by AlbertWang
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Does he need a lot of permits for the pond that holds the hog waste..?


21 posted on 11/18/2005 5:39:15 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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Nagel doesn't want to be in the city because he would have to pay an estimated $300,000 to extend a sewer line a half-mile and a water line a mile under railroad tracks to the property.

Hampton, Virginia taxpayers would not only have paid this for him, but given him a multi-year tax break. City council loves developers.
23 posted on 11/18/2005 5:44:36 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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Zoning laws are nothing more than fascism by a different name. One of the primary tenets of fascism is government control of private property. You may own a title to the property and you pay taxes on it, but the government controls how you may use it.

Under English common law, the owner of the property is invested with a number of rights in that property - the right to develop, to use, to sub-divide and bar others entry. We have come a long way from owning rights in our property and have adopted the German fascist model.

Zoning laws came into being in the 1920s, just as Marxism was being embraced by countries around the world. Before government zoning, land use was controlled by citizens in the community and backed by courts who understood English common law and the concepts of trespass and expected use. This prevented pig farms being built in areas where housing was common and expected.

Zoning laws are nothing more than opportunities for little local fascists to act like dictators and enrich themselves and their friends.



27 posted on 11/18/2005 5:57:01 AM PST by sergeantdave (Member of the Arbor Day Foundation, travelling the country and destroying open space)
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Good for him.

Hope he follows through.


28 posted on 11/18/2005 5:59:40 AM PST by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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It is going to cost him WAY more than the $300,000 he didn't want to spend if he is planning to put in a pig farm. With all the environmental regs he is going to have to comply with ( builing a waste treatement plant for all the runoff for starters ) he won't have any money left to feed the pigs !!!


29 posted on 11/18/2005 6:00:50 AM PST by Codeograph
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I can't imagine anyone even noticing a pig farm in DOWNTOWN Rathdrum. Nevermind on the outskirts of town.

To sum up Rathdrum as a community... It looks as if the local honky tonk just up and grew into a town. Even the town church has a neon cross on the steeple.


I imagine that there was lots of talk about "controlling sprawl" which of course is nonsense because Rathdrum is the northern end of Post Falls, the western end of Hayden, and the eastern end of Spokane.


33 posted on 11/18/2005 6:09:17 AM PST by Groganeer (God, Guns, Trucks-The Redneck Trinity)
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My father-in-law's friend bought some land "in town" back in the 60's; the land was zoned agricultural, but he planned on opening a fence business on it. One of the town councilmen blocked him from doing this, so he bought a bunch of farm animals for the new property. After the stench of manure began permeating the neighborhood, the neighbors complained, and the same council person told Johnny he couldn't have farm animals in town. Johnny told him that his property was agricultural, and he planned on changing his profession to farming, and would bring in even more animals,and there was nothing he could do about it. Needless to say, he was allowed to open his fence business.


35 posted on 11/18/2005 6:26:44 AM PST by Born Conservative ("Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion." -Donald Rumsfeld)
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In my county, we won't allow big pig farms within 2 miles of existing residences.

A pig corp tried to sue. We beat 'em.

This town just needs to wait until he start building, then zone pig factories 2 miles or more from residences.

I'll laugh then.
37 posted on 11/18/2005 7:55:13 AM PST by George W. Bush
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