Posted on 11/15/2005 4:20:38 AM PST by CarrotAndStick
NEW DELHI, NOV 14: India sent the highest number of students to the US for the fourth year in a row. At 80,466 students in 2004-05, it was a 1% increase over the previous year’s enrolment. Open Doors 2005, the annual report on international academic mobility published by the Institute of International Education (IIE) with support from the US Department of State’s Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs, said China followed India having sent 62,523 students, a 1% increase in enrolment, after experiencing a decline of 5% the previous year.
The Republic of Korea, which remained the third leading sender for the fourth year in a row, sent 2% more students at 53,358. Japan, the fourth leading sender with 42,215 students, experienced an increase in enrollment of 3%, reversing a trend in declining enrollments that began three years ago.
Enrolments of students from Canada, the only non-Asian country in the top five, increased by 4% to 28,140. These five countries account for almost half (47%) of all international students in the US.
In 2004/05, the number of international students enrolled in U.S. higher education institutions remained fairly steady at 565,039, off about 1% from the previous year’s totals. This marked the sixth year in a row that US hosted more than half a million foreign students. This year’s numbers indicate a leveling off of enrolments, after last year’s decline of 2.4%.
Some campuses reported significant increases in enrolments while other campuses reported declines. Asia continued to be the largest sending region by a wide margin, and showed a slight increase in enrolments.
The slight overall decline in international students enrolled in U.S. colleges and universities has been attributed to several factors, including real and perceived difficulties in obtaining student visas (especially in scientific and technical fields), rising U.S. tuition costs, vigorous recruitment activities by other English-speaking nations, and perceptions abroad that it is more difficult for international students to go to the US.
MOre interesting stats would be what became of Indian students who came in the 80s and the 90s....how many went back, how many are still here, how many went entrepreneurial, average income, edu etc....
Browsing through the Paideia (Scripps Howard Spelling Bee book) I had to get to fifth place to find an American name. The first four in last years spelling bee appeared to be of Indian decent, or so I gather from the names and photos.
Meanwhile, American students placed last in math and science, but they felt REALLY GOOD about doing so, and they're first in knowing how to use a condom.
We educate them.
Then they take our jobs away.
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UK study : Minorities break 'class barrier'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4434146.stm ^
Posted on 11/14/2005 10:57:57 PM EST by Arjun
Minorities break 'class barrier' By Dominic Casciani BBC News community affairs
Motivation: Minorities encouraged by parents, says report Young people from working class ethnic minorities tend to out-perform their white counterparts, says a report. Research into 140,000 children over 30 years found immigrant families breaking through class barriers, the Joseph Rowntree Foundation said.
50% of children from Indian working class families went into professional or managerial posts, compared with 43% of white children, it found.
But Pakistani and Bangladeshi children did worse than some white children.
Some 45% of those from Caribbean backgrounds also obtained professional or managerial posts, the study found.
The study into the success of ethnic minority children, many the sons and daughters of immigrants or born overseas themselves, looked at their lives over three decades, with the help of official statistics.
It suggested parents encouraging their children to get educated was one of the factors playing a key role in their success.
Academics at the University of Essex used national statistics to track what happened to 140,000 people born in England and Wales since the 1960s.
A disproportionate number of the young people who are upwardly mobile are the children of parents who came to this country as migrants
Dr Lucinda Platt, Essex University
The study found proportionally more ethnic minority children appeared able to do better than their parents.
The report attributed this to their parents encouraging them to stick at education.
'Under-performance'
However, those from Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities were found to under-perform compared with white children from working class families.
"The Pakistanis [tracked in the figures] were less likely to end up in professional/managerial families even when taking their backgrounds and their own educational level into account," said the report.
While there appeared to be clear educational and social reasons for the poor performance of some Bangladeshi children, said the report, it was harder to explain the lack of social mobility in Pakistani children.
The report suggested two factors played a key role in explaining success.
Firstly, children of working class immigrants tended to be motivated by their parents, a phenomenon reported in other studies.
While some immigrants initially do economically worse on arrival in a country, because only the poorest paid jobs are available, many of those who stay see their children do a lot better because of encouragement to work hard at school.
Secondly, the report suggested the upward mobility had been helped by the expansion of Britain's service industry at the expense of manual jobs - meaning there was "more room at the top" for those who aspired to reach it.
Lucinda Platt, of Essex University, the report's author, found Jews and Hindus had more chance of upward mobility than Christians.
In contrast, Muslims and Sikhs had less chance of breaking through class barriers. Children born into professional and managerial families, regardless of their ethnicity, were less likely to find themselves in less qualified work than their parents.
"Britain is still a long way from being a meritocracy where social class no longer plays a part in determining children's chances of well-paid careers," said Dr Platt.
"There is good news to the extent that a disproportionate number of the young people who are upwardly mobile are the children of parents who came to this country as migrants.
"But their welcome progress is no cause for complacency, especially when it appears to be so much harder for young people from Pakistani or Bangladeshi families to get ahead."
So, the ones I talk with ( if you can understand them) on my tech services hotline, are just the underpaid leftovers who, never made it to the US? I knew there were no guys named Matthew or Dave in India!
That would be correct. Even Indians hate call-center jobs, but is sort-of good for pocket money.
It's obviously working, particularly in the health care sector. They have a lot of US educated doctors in India, and India is becoming the place to go if you live in the US, Britain, or Canada, and can't get health care.
Personally, I don't know why we are in the business of educating doctors for India, but refuse to educate enough doctors for our own country.
My concern is how many of these students us US and state financial aid?
I have worked with many foreigners especially Chinese that got a full-ride scholarship.
Our small town had every gas station and mini mart bought out by people from India. There seems to be a set of men in charge that travel between stores checking on the operators. Each store went down hill. I am told they have very low interest loans on these places. The loans are not available to Americans. Is that true? We are seeing almost every single Dunkin Donuts go the same way. The influx to Pennsylvania from New Jersey of these folks is baffling. It seems as though there is a new "cousin" or relative there each week.
I don't see why our schools should be financing and educating those who will be our biggest economic competition in this century. We're sowing the seeds of our own destruction.
I haven't a clue.
They are hard workers.
Full-ride scholarships aren't that easy to get...the students have to do something called a 'Teacher Assistantship', which basically means teaching the undergrads, usually for 20+ hours a week(full-time).
Most Indians I know pay the first semester's fees straight off their pocket, and the rest is paid through these assistantships or through regular off-campus jobs.
Teacher Assistantship Program
The Teacher Assistantship Program provides students with part-time positions assisting full-time members of the faculties. These Assistantships are restricted to full-time students whose cumulative grade point average is at least a 3.00 or “B,” and who demonstrate financial need. Teacher Assistants may work as many as 67.5 hours per semester at a maximum rate of 5 hours per week while classes are in session. Candidates are selected by individual faculty members in conjunction with the Controller’s Office.
Work Study Program
The Work Study Program offers a variety of part-time employment opportunities on campus. Students are selected based on demonstrated financial need and depending on the availability of positions. Each student participating in this program may work up to 15 hours per week when school is in session and up to 20 hours per week during vacations. Work Study jobs are assigned by the Financial Aid Office.
==I don't see why our schools should be financing and educating those who will be our biggest economic competition in this century. We're sowing the seeds of our own destruction.==
This is a way of spreading American lifestyle, culture and influence.
Yes. Especially the better aspects.
I am an American of Indian origin that came to the USA as a student 15 years ago to get a Master's degree in engineering. I now live in a Boston suburb, my wife and I make over $200,000 so we pay a lot of taxes, we love this country, support our troops and president, vote republican and since we own a business we create jobs for the economy. We are patriotic, law abiding fully assimilated Americans. I think that is a good deal for all parties. Most people of Indian origin are your ideal immigrants, no welfare cases and add value to the economy. India is also the most pr--American country in the world. Just some food for thought.
Actually if these students donot come...we would need to shut down at least some of the universities and that would be our destruction too....By allowing these students in is just choosing a lesser evil....
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