[PatrickHenry]

Attention Karl Rove: If you want to keep winning elections, wake up and understand that Creationism-ID is a dead loser. Dump ID before it's too late.

[PatrickHenry]

EvolutionPing

A pro-evolution science list with over 320 names. See the list's explanation, then FReepmail to be added or dropped. Check out The List-O-Links. These two links will assist beginners: But it's "just a theory" and How to argue against a scientific theory.

[js1138]

What the heck am I doing up at this hour?

Anyway, I hadn't thought of this angle. Corporate recruiters are going to start hearing about this from potential employees.

[Iwentsouth]

If you have to tell someone to drop ID then it is already too late.

[Just mythoughts]

Oh please, fear mongering again, as if there ever was a doubt that evolutionists could care less who is in power, they will serve whom ever FUNDS their ideology.

[Non-Sequitur]

"There are holes in evolution," he said. "Any good scientist will admit to that."

Nothing like the gaping chasms in Intelligent Design.

[Doctor Stochastic]

Loved her violin concerto and the "Swan of Tuonela."

[From many - one.]

check to see how thread evolves

[Junior]

The CrevoSci Archive Just one of the many services of Darwin Central "The Conspiracy that Cares"

• PatrickHenry's famous List-O-Links
• Webster's On-Line Dictionary:  Creationist

CrevoSci threads for the past week:

1. 2005-11-12 [Kansas Gov. Kathleen] Sebelius criticizes State Board of Education's move [new science standards]
2. 2005-11-11 A revolution for evolution - Intelligent design must not replace hard science in classrooms.
3. 2005-11-11 Dover results disputed: School board candidate says machine was faulty
4. 2005-11-11 FR Debate: Intelligent Design vs. Birth Defects, Can They Be Reconciled?
5. 2005-11-11 Potential Origins of Europeans Found
6. 2005-11-11 The Real Evil of Evolutionary Humanism
7. 2005-11-10 Culture War Briefing, weekday news guide
8. 2005-11-10 Fossils of fierce-looking dinosaur found in Argentina (Godzilla)
9. 2005-11-10 Is Intelligent Design a Bad Scientific Theory or a Non-Scientific Theory?
10. 2005-11-10 Kansas educators clear way for evolution criticism
11. 2005-11-10 Pat Robertson has a message for Dover, PA: Don't ask God to help.
12. 2005-11-10 Pat Robertson Warns Pa. Town of Disaster
13. 2005-11-10 US states divide over creationism [the view from the UK]
14. 2005-11-10 Why the conspiracy theorizing about theories? (Freeper op-ed)
15. 2005-11-09 Anti-Evolution School Board Ousted
16. 2005-11-09 Dover CARES sweeps election (Intelligent Design loses big)
17. 2005-11-09 Evolution Suffers Kansas Setback
18. 2005-11-09 Gigantic Apes Coexisted With Early Humans, Study Finds
19. 2005-11-09 'Intelligent Design' Wins In Kansas
20. 2005-11-09 Patent issued for anti-gravity device
21. 2005-11-09 Science to ride gravitational waves
22. 2005-11-09 Shifting Icebergs May Have Forced Penguin Evolution
23. 2005-11-09 Shifting Icebergs May Have Forced Penguin Evolution
24. 2005-11-08 Bloodthirsty 'Vampire' Spider Found
25. 2005-11-08 Down for the Count (Sleep & Evolution)
26. 2005-11-08 Federal lawsuit could follow board vote [Evolution in Kansas & Dover]
27. 2005-11-08 Kansas education board downplays evolution
28. 2005-11-08 Kansas State Board Approves Teaching Standards Skeptical of Evolution
29. 2005-11-08 Math problems too big for our brains
30. 2005-11-08 RATE research reveals remarkable results—a fatal blow to billions of years (Evolution loses)
31. 2005-11-08 The "Vatican" Endorses "Darwin"? ["Vatican" has done no such thing
32. 2005-11-07 [Kansas] Board Votes on Evolution (Tomorrow, NOV 8 - Teaching I.D. to be approved!)
33. 2005-11-07 A pope for our times: why Darwin is back on the agenda at the Vatican
34. 2005-11-07 An Evolutionist's Evolution [Huge exhibit at Museum of Nat. History, NYC]
35. 2005-11-07 Evolution in the bible, says Vatican
36. 2005-11-07 Good genes beat good homes as guide to pupils’ school Success
37. 2005-11-07 Kennewick Man, Meet Your Distant Cousins
38. 2005-11-07 Prehistoric skull found in dump may be missing common ancestor of apes & humans
39. 2005-11-06 (Pennsylvania) Dover First Re-elect our school board
40. 2005-11-06 (Pennsylvania) Dover heads list of contested local races
41. 2005-11-06 African cousins behind extinction of Indians 70,000 years ago!
42. 2005-11-06 Evolution Is in the Air
43. 2005-11-06 Intelligent Design or Mindless Evolution
44. 2005-11-06 Science as Kansas sees it

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CrevoSci Warrior Freepdays for the month of November:
 

2000-11-10 AncientAirs 2000-11-21 AndrewC 1998-11-18 angelo 1999-11-22 Blood of Tyrants 2003-11-26 blowfish 2004-11-08 CarolinaGuitarman 1997-11-28 cd jones 2001-11-30 claptrap 2001-11-16 CobaltBlue 2005-11-10 culturewars 2002-11-21 DannyTN 2004-11-16 DaveLoneRanger 1997-11-30 Ditto 2001-11-16 dmz

2000-11-11 Ernest_at_the_Beach 2000-11-02 Exit 109 2000-11-22 FFIGHTER 2000-11-12 ForGod'sSake 2001-11-07 FourtySeven 2000-11-10 Godel 2004-11-06 GreenOgre 2000-11-04 harbinger of doom 2000-11-28 HiTech RedNeck 1999-11-05 Ichneumon 1998-11-13 jennyp 1998-11-25 Junior_G 2002-11-17 Just mythoughts 2004-11-11 kaotic133

2003-11-18 little jeremiah 1998-11-18 malakhi 2000-11-19 Mike Fieschko 2003-11-09 MplsSteve 2000-11-06 mrjeff 1999-11-05 muleskinner 2003-11-17 Nathan Zachary 2002-11-12 NCLaw441 1999-11-25 Nebullis 2000-11-13 NYer 2000-11-24 old-ager 2004-11-03 PajamaHadin 2000-11-10 Patriotic Teen 1998-11-01 Pharmboy

2000-11-11 P-Marlowe 2000-11-16 presidio9 2002-11-14 Remedy 2000-11-30 Right Wing Professor 2004-11-18 rightwinggoth 1998-11-15 rob777 1998-11-04 RobRoy 1999-11-16 TerP26 2000-11-04 TigerTale 2004-11-11 untrained skeptic 2004-11-21 VictoryGal 2000-11-05 will of the people 2003-11-29 woodb01

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In Memoriam
Fallen CrevoSci Warriors:

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ALS angelo Area Freeper Aric2000 Askel5 biblewonk bluepistolero churchillbuff claptrap codebreaker Con X-Poser ConservababeJen DittoJed2 dob

Ed Current f.Christian followerofchrist general_re goodseedhomeschool gopwinsin04 gore3000 IllumiNOTi JediGirl JesseShurun JethroHathaway jlogajan Justice Avenger Kevin Curry

kharaku knowquest Le-Roy malakhi Marathon medved metacognative Modernman n4sir NoKinToMonkeys Ogmios peg the prophet Phaedrus Phoroneus

pickemuphere ret_medic RickyJ SeaLion Selkie Shubi Tomax tpaine Truth666 twittle Unalienable WaveThatFlag xm177e2

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Bring back Modernman and SeaLion!

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Lost CrevoSci Battlefields (Pulled Threads)

• 2004-04-27 Stop Teaching Our Kids this Evolution Claptrap!
• 2003-10-29 The Mystery of the Missing Links (Intelligent Design vs. Evolution)
• 2003-10-27 Physics Nobelist Takes Stand on Evolution
• 2003-10-23 Gene Found for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
• 2003-10-21 Artificial Proteins Assembled from Scratch
• 2003-09-23 Solar System Formation Questions
• 2003-07-18 Unlikely Group May Revive Darwin Debate [Evolution v. Creationism]
• 2003-07-02 "Unlocking the Mystery of ""Unlocking the Mystery of Life"""
• 2003-06-26 Darwin Faces a New Rival
• 2003-06-06 Amazing Creatures
• 2002-09-13 Oldest Known Penis Is 100 Million Years Old
• 2002-04-10 (Creationists) CRSC Correction
• 2001-08-28 The Ultimate Creation vs. Evolution Resource [6th Revision]
• 2001-08-26 A Scientific Account of the Origin of Life on Earth [Thread I]
• 2001-01-13 A Christian Understanding of Intelligent Design
• 2000-10-10 Another Lost Generation?
• 2000-08-30 Evil-Ution
• 1999-11-14 Creationism's Success Past 5 Years: (Gallup: 1 in 10 hold secular evolutionist perspective)

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Longest CrevoSci Thread Ever

• 2002-12-11 Evolution Disclaimer Supported (6,871 replies)

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Glossary of Terms

Assumption: Premise: a statement that is assumed to be true and from which a conclusion can be drawn; "on the assumption that he has been injured we can infer that he will not to play"
Belief: Any cognitive content (perception) held as true; religious faith
Crevo:  Creation vs. evolution
CrevoSci:  Creation vs. evolution/Science
CrevoSci Warriors:  Those who take part on CrevoSci threads
Data: factual information, especially information organized for analysis or used to reason or make decisions
Dogma: a religious doctrine that is proclaimed as true without proof
Fact: When an observation is confirmed repeatedly and by many independent and competent observers, it can become a fact
Freepday:  The day a Freeper joined Free Republic
Hypothesis: A tentative theory about the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena; "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"; "he proposed a fresh theory of alkalis that later was accepted in chemical practices"
Impression: A vague idea in which some confidence is placed; "his impression of her was favorable"; "what are your feelings about the crisis?"; "it strengthened my belief in his sincerity"; "I had a feeling that she was lying"
Law: A generalization that describes recurring facts or events in nature; "the laws of thermodynamics"
Observation: Any information collected with the senses
Theory: A well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory"

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[Dane]

JMO, FWIW, I don't think this universe or world was created out of random chaos or chance.

[Michael_Michaelangelo]

Definitions of State Science Standards

Summary:

The definition of science proposed in the Minority Report is fully consistent with definitions used by all other states in the U.S. By contrast, the definition of science currently used in the Kansas standards and defended by the Majority is idiosyncratic and out of step with current educational practice.

By: Jonathan Wells, Ph.D, Discovery Institute, November 10, 2005

[Polyxene]

Background -- Kathleen Sebelius is John Gilligan's daughter. Gilligan was one of the worst (if not THE worst) governor Ohio ever elected. We have him to thank for instituting the income tax. It was for the children, doncha know -- said it would ALL go for education -- yea, right. He was a dem/lib/socialist, but his daughter is even more left-wing than him. And yes, he is still alive. The old fossil is serving on the Cincinnati Public School Board -- still squandering our tax money.

[VadeRetro]

Her comments follow a week in which the Kansas Board of Education adopted new science standards Tuesday that portray evolution as being in doubt and change the definition of science to allow for supernatural explanations.

Angels could be pushing the planets around. Teach the controversy! We need balance in our curriculum, which is rife with Newtonism.

A Kansas politician I can agree with, Kathleen Sebelius! Way to go, Madam Governor!

[TheForceOfOne]

Still waiting for someone to tell me how something can be created from nothing.

Its as probable as starting a fire under water bare naked with nothing but water around you.