[Kansas Gov. Kathleen] Sebelius criticizes State Board of Education's move [new science standards]

Kansas City Star via Kansas.com ^ | 12 November 2005 | DAVID KLEPPER

[RunningWolf]

False Wrong distorted and oversimplified. Dont know about marxists or creationists believing education and science leading people to marxism.

But the ChiComs are using the tenets of darwinistic evolutionism the “natural sciences” (so that people have “the basic knowledge about life, the universe, the origin of life, the rule on human evolution).
This is just one part of their secret directives on how to eradicate religion and ensure the victory of marxist atheism, and to to stop the growth of religion and spirituality among the Chinese.
These things will be replaced with the with the norms and dogmas of “scientific thought”.

The ChiComs have clearly adopted the tenets of darwinistic evolutionism as part of their plan to eradicate religion and ensure the victory of marxist atheism.

Wolf

[Dimensio]

From your article:

The paper stresses the importance of good health and healthy bodies

Clearly staying healthy is part of a communist plot. Beware: doctors only want to indoctrinate you into an anti-religious communistic mindset!

[TheForceOfOne]

Still waiting for someone to tell me how something can be created from nothing.

Its as probable as starting a fire under water bare naked with nothing but water around you.

[Dimensio]

Still waiting for someone to tell me how something can be created from nothing.

What has this to do with the theory of evolution?

[shuckmaster]

Its as probable as starting a fire under water bare naked with nothing but water around you.

have you tried it lately?

[Dane]

Clearly staying healthy is part of a communist plot. Beware: doctors only want to indoctrinate you into an anti-religious communistic mindset!

Well duh, too bad communist countries don't practice what they preach, such as North Korea where tree bark is a dinner treat. Oh that's right the communists have to make sure that religion(especially Judeo-Christian religions) are verboten since they are, "the opiate of the people".

Tree bark good, Judeo-Christianity bad.

[TheForceOfOne]

You cannot create something from nothing, yet it happened.

Until someone can explain this I couldn't care less whether someone says it was God or the Big Bang Theory.

[Dimensio]

You cannot create something from nothing, yet it happened.

Who said that it happened? And again, what does this have to do with the theory of evolution?

[TheForceOfOne]

Trying to be funny?

[TheForceOfOne]

Life has to start before it can evolve.

[Dimensio]

Life has to start before it can evolve.

Yes, but how it starts is a subject outside of the theory of evolution. It's certainly of interest to biologists, but that doesn't mean that it's part of the theory of evolution.

Are you suggesting that evolution not be considered a worthwhile science until there's a solid answer on where the first life forms came from?

[TheForceOfOne]

No, evolution is a natural progression but without knowing how it started it is useless.

[Dimensio]

No, evolution is a natural progression but without knowing how it started it is useless.

By that reasoning all of science is useless until we can explain exactly how the universe originated.

[TheForceOfOne]

Not useless, just incomplete and lacking solid evidence for all conclusions reached.

[TheForceOfOne]

I do think that science is the most likely method to eventually explain life. Religious beliefs are set in stone.

[Dimensio]

Okay. Three possible scenarios.

The first life forms emerged as a result of molecules forming the right chains over a period of time. The chains formed as they did primarily as a result of the chemical properties of the molecules themselves, not simply "random chance" as some creationists claim.

The first life forms were zap-poofed into existence by a divine agent.

The first life forms were planted on earth by time-travelling humans from the future.

Assume in that the resulting life forms are identical for all scenarios.

Is the theory of evolution directly affected based upon any one of the above being true? What if identical life forms were produced by some other process?

[Oztrich Boy]

I have stated earlier that I believe that there has been an intelligent beginning to this world/universe,

Please provide some evidence for that.

[Coyoteman]

I have stated earlier that I believe that there has been an intelligent beginning to this world/universe

...a position for which there is no evidence at all.

the stage is now yours to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the differentiation of species(life) has been created in random chaos and or chance.

So, you get to put forth your position with no evidence at all, but you expect scientists to prove their position--"prove beyond a reasonable doubt the differentiation of species" etc. etc.

Tell me, what is your background in science? Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express, last night?

[jennyp]

Trans-Siberian Orchestra. Probably one of the best hard rock/classical/Christmas music bands in existence. Odds are you've heard at least one of their songs ("Christmas in Sarajevo") though their "Christmas Canon" has also gotten a bit of airplay in the last few years.

Now that's freaky! Here's my favorite pop Christmas album.

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