[concretebob]

You have lost sight of the argument with the word "torture"

Here is the problem, in boldface type:

(d) Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment Defined.--
In this section, the term "cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment'' means the cruel, unusual, and inhumane treatment or punishment prohibited by the Fifth, Eighth, and Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, as defined in the United States Reservations, Declarations and Understandings to the United Nations Convention Against Torture and Other Forms of Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment done at New York, December 10, 1984.

I do not, repeat, DO NOT want ANY non-US citizen, caught trying to kill 1,000's of people, to be protected by OUR Constitution.
WE CANNOT, WE MUST NOT, reduce acts of terror to simple criminal offenses.

The islamo-fascists have been trying to destroy our Constitutional form of government.

They deserve NO, NYET, ZERO, ZIP, NADA protection

[PleaDeal]

I object most to the inclusion of the term "Degrading Treatment or Punishment". I don't see how one would extract intel from a prisoner thru degradation. Wouldn't the subject just get pissed off? Doesn't seem to be a very good inducement to talk, but it would be a very enticing reason to call in the ACLU types to wail about "abuse". I can just see terrorist scumbags complaining about their "feelings being hurt" by wearing handcuffs and leg irons. We'd never be able to even question one of these dirtbags if they saw an interrogator look at them "funny".

Pretty soon there would be no sense in even taking prisoners.

[3D-JOY]

war crimes ='s simple criminal offense and court protection

ABSOLUTELY WRONG!!

Keep telling it like it is concretebob!

[GeorgeW23225]

Right on!!!

[R. Scott]

I do not, repeat, DO NOT want ANY non-US citizen, caught trying to kill 1,000's of people, to be protected by OUR Constitution.

Why not apply local rules and customs? It’s only fair – it would show our sensitivity for local customs, and the “suspects” would be used to the treatment and know what to expect.