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Deadly bomb technology enters Iraq from Iran-general
Reuters ^ | 04 Nov 2005 | Charles Aldinger

Posted on 11/04/2005 10:24:48 AM PST by ncountylee

WASHINGTON, Nov 4 (Reuters) - Sophisticated technology and explosives to make improvised bombs killing U.S. and other troops in Iraq are apparently entering the country virtually unhindered from Iran, a senior British general said on Friday.

Royal Marines Maj. Gen. James Dutton spoke with reporters in a teleconference from Basra in southern Iraq a day after the Pentagon announced plans to increase efforts to find ways to defend against improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, used by insurgents that are the leading cause of U.S. casualties in the war.

Dutton said he did not know whether the Iranian government or its intelligence service, or perhaps other unspecified groups, were helping Iraqi insurgents smuggle explosives or completed bombs across the porous border into Iraq.

"I simply don't know whether this is official Iranian policy," said Dutton, who commands a 13,000-strong multinational division in southeastern Iraq.

"The IED explosives, particularly the advanced technology IEDs ... we believe the technology is coming across that border," Dutton said. "We're not, regrettably, capturing these arms as they come across the border."

"You wouldn't expect me to go into great details about how we know that. But we're pretty convinced that that is where these things are coming from," Dutton added.

Dutton said the devices in question included crude but effective "explosively formed projectiles," which are cylinders filled with explosives and capped with a copper or steel plate. The plate penetrates the armor of military vehicles, to devastating effect.

The general said coalition forces in his region were working closely with the Iraqi government and border security guards to better police the area, and noted that at least one large cache of explosives was found by Iraqi forces in August.

IRAN DENIES CHARGES

Britain and the United States have accused Iran or the Tehran-backed Lebanese group Hizbollah of providing military expertise to Iraqi insurgents behind attacks on British troops in southern Iraq.

Iran denies meddling in Iraq and says the accusations against it are tied to efforts by Washington and London to report Tehran to the U.N. Security Council for possible sanctions over its nuclear program.

The Pentagon said it is considering putting a more senior officer in charge of a task force set up last year to deal with the homemade bombs. The United States said it was also adding more experts to the effort.

The Pentagon said more than half of all U.S. casualties in Iraq stem from homemade bombs, which are often buried along a road or hidden inside debris or even animal carcasses and usually detonated by remote control or with a timer. The Pentagon said on Friday that 2,035 U.S. soldiers had been killed and nearly 15,500 more wounded in a war that started in March 2003.

"I think we're not completely certain where the manufacture takes place," said Dutton of the devices.

"We know where the technological know-how comes from and we suspect where the parts come from," he said. "Where they are actually put together is something that we're working on."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
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1 posted on 11/04/2005 10:24:49 AM PST by ncountylee
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To: ncountylee
I wonder if these are the shaped charges MFG by the chicoms.
2 posted on 11/04/2005 10:31:58 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: magslinger

more detail on an earlier topic


3 posted on 11/04/2005 10:37:24 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: magslinger

*more detail on an earlier topic*

sorry - that wasn't you... different freeper... name escapes me


4 posted on 11/04/2005 10:38:09 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: King Prout

Not a problem, interesing article.


5 posted on 11/04/2005 10:45:01 AM PST by magslinger (At the end of the day the only truly educated people are autodidacts.)
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To: ncountylee
I think it is time to bring back that Oldie but goodie...
"Bomb Iran" sung to the tune of "Barbara Ann"

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran.
Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran.

Oh Bomb Iran! Make glass in the sand!
Bomb Iran!
Got us rockin' and a rollin', Mahmud's runnin' and a reelin' Bomb Iran bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran...
6 posted on 11/04/2005 10:46:26 AM PST by Danae (Most Liberals don't drink the Kool-aide, they are licking the powder right out of the packet.)
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To: magslinger

kewl - just didn't want to give you too bad of a "WTH?" moment

now... I gotta go through my archive and find the freeper I meant to ping :(


7 posted on 11/04/2005 10:48:56 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: ncountylee

Proving once again that "pourous borders" are a deadly threat to all; even those with their heads in the sand.


8 posted on 11/04/2005 10:52:35 AM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: King Prout

I get "WTH?" moments on FR all the time. Sometimes from the articles, sometimes from the posts. One more wouldn't kill me.
If you remember the title why not try a title search?


9 posted on 11/04/2005 10:57:55 AM PST by magslinger (At the end of the day the only truly educated people are autodidacts.)
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To: magslinger

I don't recall the title, only the content
IIRC "Pentagon" was in the title.
I'll give that a whack.


10 posted on 11/04/2005 11:00:47 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: ncountylee

We've made the fatal mistake of limiting our scope of what this war requires (to wit, subjugation of Syria and Iran) for the sake of protecting the public from confronting a politically incorrect military draft.

Quite the shame, really. How can we leave Iraq? Iran will shred them.


11 posted on 11/04/2005 11:04:32 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Stuck on Genius)
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To: etcetera

ping - more on the IED/EFP problem (and probable source)


12 posted on 11/04/2005 11:04:55 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: magslinger

got it - freeper name "etcetera"


13 posted on 11/04/2005 11:05:23 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: ncountylee

["Sophisticated technology and explosives to make improvised bombs killing U.S. and other troops in Iraq are apparently entering the country virtually unhindered from Iran..........."]

So what else is new. The Iranian government has a long history of doing this...e.g, they used to send weapons etc. to the muslims and Mujhadeen fighters in Bosnia (over 10 years ago).


14 posted on 11/04/2005 11:23:43 AM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Rutles4Ever

yes shred them, and then enslave them to tehran.

then, when its war time, it is these same people who will be on the frontline as fodder.

just like hitler did.


15 posted on 11/04/2005 11:28:53 AM PST by jackson29
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To: ncountylee
This is what happens when you let terrorists and aggressor nations have "privileged sanctuaries" in which they can acquire the technology and weapons they need to carry out deadly attacks against US and Allied forces. I'm not advocating a Mike Savage style bombing campaign that might only have the effect of alienating the Iranian people, and drawing them closer to the mullahs; I think we need a full spectrum approach, which involves making no empty threats (like we clearly have with Syria), gathering intelligence, asking our allies to support us (not hard: the Brits, for one, have fingered Iran), rallying the American people (which may involve releasing some of the intelligence information you've already gathered), getting Congressional support (when required), and conducting very focused, covert operations to "bomb the bomb makers, and those who pull their strings. Also, if we are not already doing so, we should be lending (cautiously and carefully) full support to pro-democracy forces inside Iran.

Given that we are talking about the Iranians (and presumably the Syrians as well), there is a real possibility (but by no means a probability) that they will not get the message, and will come back at us with a massive escalation of violence and political stunts (e.g. cutting off oil to nations which don't support them, sophisticated terror attacks against US interests), but if that happens, the mullahs will have kissed goodbye to their nuclear ambitions (the destruction of which we should leave to the Israelis), and will write their own epitaphs.

16 posted on 11/04/2005 12:16:42 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: Becki; mickie; Dog; Deetes; Gucho; iso; ravingnutter; Straight Vermonter; TexKat; DoctorZIn; ...

ping


17 posted on 11/05/2005 9:02:35 PM PST by Wiz
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