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IS TEACHING TRADITIONAL "HISTORY" HISTORY AT CARSON HIGH SCHOOL?
Common Voice ^ | 11.02.05 | Chuck Muth

Posted on 11/03/2005 2:04:14 PM PST by Coleus

Meet Joe Enge.

Joe is an award-winning, 15-year veteran history teacher in Carson City who has, among other things, written two history textbooks and served on the 1997 task force which drew up Nevada's history standards.  But according to school district administrators, he's a "bad" teacher.

You see, Joe has this crazy idea that American history should include our colonial period, as well as the Revolutionary War period.  You know, where the Founding Fathers fought for independence from England and wrote the greatest governing document the world has ever known - the United States Constitution.  You know, that period of time which gave us patriot heroes such as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Tom Paine, Benjamin Franklin, Patrick Henry, Sam Adams, John Hancock, Paul Revere, John Paul Jones, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and John Hancock.

And Joe has REALLY ticked off the local school district bureaucrats and the education establishment.

You see, unbeknownst to most parents in Carson City, the school district believes that high school American history should start with the Civil War era, not the days of America's Founding.  Indeed, the curriculum forced on history teachers at Carson High School ignores pre-Civil War history completely - other than a little optional "refresher" at the beginning of the school year or if you're in an Advanced Placement class.

Joe Enge has fought the district's History-Lite curriculum for the past three years by teaching ALL of his students ALL of America's history, starting with the colonial period (remember the Pilgrims?).

In addition, Joe believes...get this...that the teacher should teach and the students should learn.  He embraces and practices the "traditional" teacher-centered method of education, as opposed to the fashionable student-centered "discovery learning" method currently all the rage in San Francisco and Portland.  What a trouble-maker.

So the school district wants to get rid of him.

Joe's supervisors - including Carson High's principal, Fred Perdomo - have given Joe unsatisfactory evaluations in retaliation for his refusal to teach a Founding-free version of American history.  And although Joe's a "tenured" teacher, three such bad evaluations would be grounds for running this maverick out of town on a rail (students would have to read Revolutionary War-era history to know just what this phrase means).  So Joe challenged the administrative evaluations; however, the Carson City School District Superintendent, Mary Pierszynski, sided with the principal.  Big surprise there.

Last month as part of a mediation effort, Ms. Pierszynski offered to buy Joe off by paying him one year's salary if he'd quit.  And considering the pure hell this one-man fight has put his family through, Joe actually considered it.  But at the last minute, Pierszynski withdrew her offer, and now the dispute is moving to binding arbitration.  Which means if Pierszynski's ruling backing Perdomo's evaluations stands, this Fulbright Scholar and Madison Fellowship award-winner will likely be tossed out on his kiester - and his Carson High students will finally be taught that American history began when Lincoln freed the slaves.

Of course, the teacher's union could always ride in and defend this experienced, professional classroom educator.  Yeah, right.  Fat chance.  You see, Joe has chosen not to join the teacher's union, so these "principled" defenders of teaching professionals are more than happy to see the guy thrown to the wolves.

This entire episode is an outrage.  Joe Enge is the kind of teacher we should WANT educating our kids.  He loves history.  He knows history.  And he's darned good at teaching history.  Indeed, Enge's spirit of resistance to this great injustice would make our Founding Fathers - who the Carson City School District would prefer to pretend never existed - proud.  Especially Thomas Jefferson who (not that Carson City high school students would know it) once said, "The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive."

It's time for Superintendent Pierszynski, Principal Perdomo and the entire Carson City education establishment to call off the dogs and let professional American history teacher Joe Enge do what he's been trained to do and has been successfully doing for 15 long years: TEACH AMERICAN HISTORY.  The FULL American history, not the district's "Reader's Digest" version.

Please help keep American history IN ITS ENTIRETY alive at Carson High School by signing our online petition urging the Carson City School District to allow Joe Enge to do what he's been trained to do: Teach ALL of American history. 

Just go to the "Online Petition" page at www.citizenoutreach.com



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: education; educationlist; history; historyeducation; historylist; publicschools; schools
The Carson City school board email system has either been overwhelmed by the sheer volume of petitions sent in defense of history teacher Joe Enge (over 5,000 by late this morning), or the district has intentionally shut the system down.

They can run, but they can't hide.

Here are the phone numbers to call should you care to continuing showing our support for Mr. Enge's desire to teach ALL of American history to ALL of his students.

Carson High School Principal Fred Perdomo (775) 283-1600 Ext. 3

Carson City School Superintendent Mary Pierczynski (775) 283-2100

Carson City School Board President James Hukari (775) 841-0525

It is critically important for these school administrators to know that what they're trying to do behind-the-scenes is no longer "secret" and that Joe Enge is no longer fighting this fight by himself. I would, however, ask that phone calls be polite but firm; adamant but professional. We do not want to give these folks the ability to undermine our message by attacking the messengers.

Chuck Muth President Citizen Outreach

1 posted on 11/03/2005 2:04:15 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Born Conservative


2 posted on 11/03/2005 2:04:30 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus
Joe Enge is a hero. As for the ignoramuses who run the school district and seem to want to turn out new ignoramuses, they are Exhibt Number One of what is wrong with public education.

Support Joe Enge!

3 posted on 11/03/2005 2:10:54 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Coleus
Having a good day Mr. Perdomo?

4 posted on 11/03/2005 2:11:03 PM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: Coleus

I'd need to know a little more about this before I'm willing to get my knickers all in a twist. Do they cover the Founding Fathers, Revolutionary War period etc. in 8th grade and then move on to the Civil War and post-Civil War period in Freshman year in High School, European history in Sophomore year, World History in Junior year, etc? Are you saying they're not teaching the pre-Civil War period at all? I find that hard to believe. It does say the curriculum calls for a "refresher" on that period in the freshman year.


5 posted on 11/03/2005 2:15:11 PM PST by saquin
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To: Coleus
… his Carson High students will finally be taught that American history began when Lincoln freed the slaves.

And cast in stone the idea that all rights come, not from The People, but from the Federal Government – and the States are nothing more than provinces with only that power granted them by Congress.
6 posted on 11/03/2005 2:23:08 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: saquin

"It does say the curriculum calls for a "refresher" on that period in the freshman year."

That's for AP students. Why do AP students need a "refresher" but not regular students?


7 posted on 11/03/2005 2:32:52 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: saquin
There's a big difference between the American history you learn in 8th grade and that which you learn as a junior in High School.
8 posted on 11/03/2005 2:42:47 PM PST by Stag_Man (Hamilton is my Hero)
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To: L98Fiero
That's for AP students. Why do AP students need a "refresher" but not regular students?

Answer: The AP students do not get passing credit for history unless they score a 4 or a 5 on the AP history exam given at the end of the junior year. With the likelihood of some questions related to the discovery or the revolutionary period or for that matter the roaring twenties or expansion periods, the kids need this little refresher or the AP kids lose out. This exam is not made up by the high schools, but given to the kids across the country. Some have Real history classes.

9 posted on 11/03/2005 2:45:06 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: L98Fiero
That's for AP students. Why do AP students need a "refresher" but not regular students?

No, it's not for AP students. It says there's a "refresher" (presumably for those who didn't learn it the previous year) and also AP students cover that period (presumably because AP classes go over material in greater depth). The refresher is not for AP students.

I'm not making a judgement on this one way or the other. I'd like to know the full facts. This opinion piece does not provide enough facts for me to have an informed opinion on this curriculum.

10 posted on 11/03/2005 2:58:08 PM PST by saquin
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To: Stag_Man
There's a big difference between the American history you learn in 8th grade and that which you learn as a junior in High School.

Who says they'd necessarily cover the Revolutionary Period in Junior Year? (I didn't, if I remember correctly). If they cover it in Freshman Year, is there that big a difference between covering it in 8th grade as opposed to 9th grade?

11 posted on 11/03/2005 3:01:38 PM PST by saquin
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To: Coleus
You may want to check with the State Standards which dictate what is taught in a High School History Class.

BTW-In the State of Texas the only US History that is Taught to Students is 1877 to the present.
12 posted on 11/03/2005 3:04:01 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: Rummyfan
Joe Enge is a hero. As for the ignoramuses who run the school district and seem to want to turn out new ignoramuses, they are Exhibt Number One of what is wrong with public education.

While I agree with Mr. Enge, the history curriculum is dictated by the State and very heavily influenced by NCLB.

History is taught in this manner even in the Great State of Texas!

13 posted on 11/03/2005 3:07:29 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: Mulch

This is a State Standard and not dictated by the Principal.


14 posted on 11/03/2005 3:09:24 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV
You might want to alert them to our book "A Patriot's History of the United States" (Sentinel, 2004), now in its SIXTH printing in just 11 months.

http://www.patriotshistoryusa.com

15 posted on 11/03/2005 3:10:08 PM PST by LS
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To: LS

In Texas the State Decides What textbook will be used in History. The teacher has no say in the matter and must teach to the Standardized Test or be Fired.


16 posted on 11/03/2005 3:13:54 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

Yes, but the teacher might like a SUPPLEMENTAL book with a point-by-point refutation of the lib texts.


17 posted on 11/03/2005 3:23:15 PM PST by LS
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To: LS
I teach history in Texas.

If I am to survive in my profession my Students must pass the TEKS (standardized test). The Concepts that the students must learn are dictated by the state and only include events after the Civil War. If my students score lower than kids at other schools I am on the hook. Thus far I have been lucky with 90-94% of my kids passing, a rate far better than the state as a whole.

If I were to spent time telling them about the Articles of Confederation I could not tell them about the events during the Progressive Era and their scores would fall.

BTW-Statewide Standardized testing was imposed by Gov. Bush in Texas in 1997 and in 2002 was implemented across the country.

Now you know who to blame.
18 posted on 11/03/2005 3:32:18 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: saquin

You have this one dead on. Not enough facts. We read enough garbage from the left to see the slant without thinking and this is no better than those. The usual methods of the left MSM are being used to get us riled up and I'm not buying without hearing details.


19 posted on 11/03/2005 3:32:20 PM PST by Bogeygolfer
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To: easymoney

Read my posts. This is a result of NCLB!


20 posted on 11/03/2005 3:34:05 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: Coleus

Carson High School Principal Fred Perdomo
Carson City School Superintendent Mary Pierczynski
Carson City School Board President James Hukari

Who ARE these people?? Does anyone know anything about their credentials to run a school district?? Are they all recently-graduated campus-radicals? How old are they? Where do these freak school-board member come from?? This stuff is going on all over the U.S. and I can't figure out how this happens.


21 posted on 11/03/2005 3:36:03 PM PST by hardworking (Hey, what do I know? I'm just one of the 'ordinary people' who has to earn a living.)
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To: Coleus

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1514819/posts


22 posted on 11/03/2005 3:37:20 PM PST by Born Conservative (Prince Charles is Camilla Parker Bowles' tampon - MadIvan)
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To: Coleus

I always thought US History ended in 1919 since my two classes never got past WWI.


23 posted on 11/03/2005 3:37:57 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

Interesting post. Could you elaborate on why they chose the civil war period and the trade offs involved. For example there are only so many history classes you can take in high school with a great deal of territory to cover. Is the idea to focus on post civil war a way to get some depth as opposed to a broad view with little detail. I'm not seeing this as a conservative v liberal issue at all despite the effort to galvanize support for this teacher from the conservative side. The use of the civil war creates a gut reaction that I don't think is true. If they touch on our earlier history in middle school I'd be more inclined to write this off. Additionally it seems college is where you pick your history classes from a broad offering to suit your tastes.


24 posted on 11/03/2005 3:38:06 PM PST by Bogeygolfer
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To: hardworking

See: No Child Left Behind
Standardized Testing


25 posted on 11/03/2005 3:38:21 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: Born Conservative

thanks, I should have done a title search on fr instead of a google search. Sometimes google lets me down.


26 posted on 11/03/2005 3:38:55 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

Don't give me that. Here in OH we have standardized tests too, and I've taught at every grade level 7th through 12th, then college. Just because you HAVE to teach "x" doesn't mean you can't also teach "y." That's a cop out. And you know who to blame for that.


27 posted on 11/03/2005 3:45:10 PM PST by LS
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To: easymoney
They teach US before 1877 in Middle School. So therefore it is covered but done so so that your average 8th grader can pass. It is not more difficult than Who was the First President or how the Bad White Man killed all them Indians.

My take on why 11th grade US History only covers 1877 to the present is that early US History is more difficult for the kids. They would have to know 'boring' stuff about the Articles of Confederation and all those boring Presidents before Lincoln.

In US 1877 to present I cover a little about Reconstruction, the Progressive Era, WWI, the 1920's, the Depression, WWII and so on. The subjects are much more relevant and we want the Kids to score High on their Standardized Tests so that the Educational system does not look like it is failing.
28 posted on 11/03/2005 3:47:25 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: LS
I teach what I have to teach but I do manage to get in a few extras like the Constitution, the Revolution and Civil War.

However, very brief.


The Bush-Kennedy NCLB may very well destroy education in America.
29 posted on 11/03/2005 3:51:02 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: Coleus

No problem. Thanks for the ping. Glad to see that they are physically getting the "message".


30 posted on 11/03/2005 3:51:44 PM PST by Born Conservative (Prince Charles is Camilla Parker Bowles' tampon - MadIvan)
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

I had to take tests like that in Ohio in 1996. And I was REQUIRED to pass that test in order to graduate. Blaming Bush makes no sense.


31 posted on 11/03/2005 3:52:48 PM PST by buckeye27
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To: saquin

No it's a "refresher" for AP students because the AP test actually TESTS that period of time.


32 posted on 11/03/2005 3:53:54 PM PST by buckeye27
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To: buckeye27

Today there are National Standards that are a result of NCLB passed in 2002. Prior to NCLB some states had Statewide standards while others did not.


33 posted on 11/03/2005 3:56:21 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: LS

I bought this book for my son who now is in college. His American History textbook at college leaves out so much information that my son was amazed. He uses "A Patriot's History of the US" to make sure that he has the whole story.


34 posted on 11/03/2005 3:58:05 PM PST by Sioux-san (God save the Sheeple)
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To: buckeye27
No it's a "refresher" for AP students because the AP test actually TESTS that period of time.

Look, this is a niggling little point that I don't want to argue over but the piece (which is not very strong on facts but alludes to them obliquely) clearly talks about the "refresher" as separate from the AP classes.

"...other than a little optional "refresher" at the beginning of the school year or if you're in an Advanced Placement class.

"Or" is the operative word in that sentence.

35 posted on 11/03/2005 4:21:08 PM PST by saquin
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To: Coleus
This points out a problem with "No Child Left Behind" and the testing craze currently sweeping public education; way too much micromanagement by administrators.

Teaching has moved from a creative profession and changed into a type of test-prep. service. The administrators dictate the courses, material, curriculum, pace and the results. PC politicos at the state level pick the curriculum, which they chose in response to pressure from various vocal interest groups.

Teachers are now full time tutors for the slowest kids, who can no longer be "left behind", and the smartest kids are not challenged in the least.

Accountability for schools is OK, but micro management just takes away initiative, creativity, enjoyment and energy.
36 posted on 11/03/2005 4:34:00 PM PST by Wiseghy (Discontent is the want of self-reliance: it is infirmity of will. – Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: Sioux-san

Thanks. Glad it is helping him. If he needs material for papers, make sure to go to our references and notes. They are the most recent scholarship.


37 posted on 11/03/2005 6:36:56 PM PST by LS
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To: Coleus

I teach American History Honors (10th grade) and college level here in FL, land of the FCAT. We ignore the standardized test and teach the students the facts AND how to think about them.

My students are currently preparing their proposals for our annual Constitutional Convention. Nothing imprints the beauty of the American system more than having them experience it for themselves. Active learning has nothing to do with state-mandated pap for content or a standardized test.

PS My students know Lincoln never freed a single slave.


38 posted on 02/17/2006 12:50:38 PM PST by Griff55
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

As a former US history teacher, I don't see how you can just start with the Civil War without giving the constitutional/political background on the slavery issue and states' rights. I assume you do not just start with the election of Lincoln.


39 posted on 02/17/2006 12:59:10 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Coleus

Seems to me, the PARENTS of the kids he teaches and the kids themselves need to have a 'come to Jesus' meeting with the Principal and the Superintendent.


40 posted on 02/17/2006 1:07:18 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

Our two older sons took AP US History and covered Colonial to the present time. We homeschooled our daughter and she used their textbook and supporting materials. Our youngest son will be a Junior in high school next year, and we're bringing him back home to homeschool his last two years. He'll use the same text, so all of them will have had a good grounding in US History.


41 posted on 02/17/2006 1:11:27 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: RobbyS

I teach American History in a two semester sequence. Discovery & Colonization to the War of Northern Aggression in the first and Reconstruction to 20th century in the second.

We spend two solid weeks on the Constitution alon, AFTER a good background in the Enlightenment.


42 posted on 02/20/2006 5:42:23 AM PST by Griff55
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To: Griff55

Hope you spend a little time on The Great Awakening. Rhys Issacs has a good book on that called "The Tranformation of Virginia."


43 posted on 02/20/2006 7:36:56 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV
"The Bush-Kennedy NCLB may very well destroy education in America."

The NEA and the teachers union destroyed education.

NCLB was put in place so schools would teach the "Meat and Potato's" of a well rounded, valued skills, education.

If the public schools can't find the time to teach basic history, English, math, and science at a reasonable level, Perhaps they will have to cut out some of the BS classes like Ebonics, gay-lifestyles, etc?
44 posted on 02/20/2006 8:11:34 AM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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