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Rioting Spreads to 20 Towns Around Paris [Is France heading toward a bloody civil war?]
Associated Press via Yahoo! News ^ | 2005 Nov 4 | Jamey Keaten

Posted on 11/03/2005 10:15:42 AM PST by Wiz

AULNAY-SOUS-BOIS, France - Rampaging youths shot at police and firefighters Thursday after burning car dealerships and public buses and hurling rocks at commuter trains, as eight days of riots over poor conditions in Paris-area housing projects spread to 20 towns.

Youths ignored an appeal for calm from President Jacques Chirac, whose government worked feverishly to fend off a political crisis amid criticism that it has ignored problems in neighborhoods heavily populated by first- and second-generation North African and Muslim immigrants.

Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin called a string of emergency meetings with Cabinet ministers throughout the day. He told the Senate the government "will not give in" to violence in the troubled suburbs.

"Order and justice will be the final word in our country," Villepin said. "The return to calm and the restoration of public order are the priority — our absolute priority."

The riots started last Thursday after the electrocution deaths of two teenagers who ran from a soccer game and hid in a power station in the northeastern suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois after they saw police enter the area. Youths in the neighborhood said police chased the boys to their death.

French authorities have said that officers were investigating a suspected burglary and not pursuing the boys, a view backed up by an interim report by the national police inspectors office released Thursday.

Investigators said the boys — Mauritania-born Traore Bouna, 15, and Zyed Benna, 17, of Tunisia — knew of the dangers of hiding in an electric substation as they sought to evade police. The report also cites two witnesses saying they did not see the boys being chased. A third boy, Muttin Altun, 17, was badly burned.

Separate administrative and judicial investigations into the accidental deaths also were under way.

By Wednesday night, violence triggered by the deaths had spread to at least 20 Paris-region towns, said Jean-Francois Cordet, the top government official for the Seine-Saint-Denis region north of Paris where the violence has been concentrated. He said youths in the region fired four shots at riot police and firefighters but caused no injuries.

Nine people were injured in Seine-Saint-Denis and 315 cars burned across the Paris area, officials said. In the tough northeastern suburb of Aulnay-sous-Bois, youth gangs set fire to a Renault car dealership and burned at least a dozen cars, a supermarket and a local gymnasium.

Traffic was halted Thursday morning on a suburban commuter line linking Paris to Charles de Gaulle airport after stone-throwing rioters attacked two trains overnight at the Le Blanc-Mesnil station. They forced a conductor from one train and broke windows, the SNCF rail authority said. A passenger was lightly injured by broken glass.

The unrest has highlighted the division between France's big cities and their poor suburbs, with frustration simmering in the housing projects in areas marked by high unemployment, crime and poverty.

The violence also cast doubt on the success of France's model of seeking to integrate its large immigrant community — its Muslim population, at an estimated 5 million, is Western Europe's largest — by playing down differences between ethnic groups. Rather than feeling embraced as full and equal citizens, immigrants and their French-born children complain of police harassment and of being refused jobs, housing and opportunities.

Opposition groups accused the government of letting the situation spiral out of control, either by failing to act quickly enough or letting in too many immigrants over the years.

"We see that the situation in certain neighborhoods is not getting better at all but degenerating," Socialist Party President Jean-Marc Ayrault told LCI television, who said Chirac's conservatives "did not know how to take control."

Right-wing French lawmaker Philippe de Villiers, who has said he wants to "stop the Islamization of France," told RTL radio that the problem stemmed from the "failure of a policy of massive and uncontrolled immigration."

Minister of Social Cohesion Jean-Louis Borloo said the government had to react "firmly" but added that France must also acknowledge its failure to have dealt with anger simmering in poor suburbs for decades.

"We cannot hide the truth: that for 30 years we have not done enough," he told France-2 television.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2good2betrue; dhimmitude; eurabia; france; frenchriots; islamism; nicolassarkozy; ouihad; parisriots; sarkozy
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It sounds like another Algeria Independence War with a bloody and endless civil war in France. Were there any Basque resistance in France as well claiming for independence. I hope the Basque resistance in France to stand up and fight for independence from the evil French colonialists.
1 posted on 11/03/2005 10:15:43 AM PST by Wiz
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To: Wiz

Sounds like the chickens have come home to roost in France.


2 posted on 11/03/2005 10:16:17 AM PST by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: RockinRight; Wiz

Or should it be frogs?


3 posted on 11/03/2005 10:16:32 AM PST by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: Wiz

4 posted on 11/03/2005 10:17:31 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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To: Wiz

Fall of the fifth republic?


5 posted on 11/03/2005 10:17:38 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Wiz

France is imploding.


6 posted on 11/03/2005 10:18:06 AM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: Wiz

Civil war???? Any war will be fought by someone other than the French.


7 posted on 11/03/2005 10:18:17 AM PST by cynicom
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To: Wiz

la belle France is toast.

They don't have the b@lls to do what MUST be done.

Welcome to the Franco-Islamic Republic.


8 posted on 11/03/2005 10:18:21 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Wiz

To the title: hopefully, affirmative. The sooner started, the sooner ended [and the easier won, given the differential fertility rates].


9 posted on 11/03/2005 10:18:26 AM PST by GSlob
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To: mainepatsfan

WOw...now 20 vermin filled towns involved. Time for some nape & bake.


10 posted on 11/03/2005 10:19:13 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Wiz
No - they were headed there for the last 20 years, they are there but don't know it yet. Sorko knows but Chirac fiddles and de Vil is looking in the mirror.
11 posted on 11/03/2005 10:19:19 AM PST by SF Republican
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Sleep with the dogs, wake up with fleas. It could not happen to a more deserving bunch of back stabbing wusses.
12 posted on 11/03/2005 10:19:30 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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This can't be happening. Understanding and open dialog is the best way to deal with angry Muslims...Maybe France isn't trying hard enough to really understand their pain. Try harder France!

(sarcasm/off)


13 posted on 11/03/2005 10:19:48 AM PST by Gator101
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"Welcome to the Franco-Islamic Republic."

Yep, the press can call them riots if they want but nobody riots for 7 days straight with no purpose in 20 towns. This is an insurrection.


14 posted on 11/03/2005 10:19:57 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: clee1

Europe formed several coalitions to destroy revolutionary France and then Napoleon. Somehow I doubt they have what it takes to do the same today.


15 posted on 11/03/2005 10:20:09 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Wiz

wouldn't be a problem if they built the slum 20 feet below sea level surrounded by some half arsed levees.


16 posted on 11/03/2005 10:20:09 AM PST by kinghorse
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Is France heading toward a bloody civil war?

Not unless someone stole all of their white flags.

17 posted on 11/03/2005 10:20:21 AM PST by magslinger (At the end of the day the only truly educated people are autodidacts.)
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"Is France heading toward a bloody civil war?]"

No. The Frogs would surrender to the Muslims well before any actual violence.


18 posted on 11/03/2005 10:20:25 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Wiz

Okay, when will France request help from American troops!!!??? Would that not just be the ultimate??


19 posted on 11/03/2005 10:20:32 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: RockinRight

Shouldn't chickens come home to roost?

Anyone know the origin of this saying and why its meaning is ominous?


20 posted on 11/03/2005 10:20:45 AM PST by RexBeach ("The rest of the world is three drinks behind." -Humphrey Bogart)
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