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Tent cities may multiply (Seattle)
Seattle Times ^ | 11/2/05 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 11/02/2005 12:11:27 PM PST by BurbankKarl

One of Seattle's biggest emergency-shelter providers is planning to close its facilities in March and open three new tent cities because of a funding dispute involving the privacy rights of the homeless.

SHARE/WHEEL, a cooperative of homeless people that runs 13 indoor shelters and two tent cities in King County, has been notified that it won't get funding from the city of Seattle this year after refusing to feed client data into a city-run database.

That database, called Safe Harbors, is required by the federal government to give unduplicated counts of homeless people nationwide. But to SHARE/WHEEL, which is losing about $274,000, or half its annual budget, the database is an unnecessary and expensive version of Big Brother.

"It's not only the information being provided, but it's who you are providing it to," said Ted Hunter, lawyer for SHARE/WHEEL, which stands for Seattle Housing and Resource Effort / Women's Housing Equality and Enhancement League.

SHARE/WHEEL plans to protest at a City Council hearing Thursday, hoping to persuade the council to refuse to participate in the national database. But in case that strategy doesn't work, it also recently asked City Attorney Tom Carr to renegotiate a legal agreement signed in 2002 that allows just one tent city in Seattle.

If SHARE/WHEEL opens additional tent cities without city permission — as the group first did in 1990 during the Goodwill Games — it could have an impact on its fund-raising, Carr said.

"There's not many people who want to help a radical organization ... breaking the law."

According to an analysis by city staffers, the loss of SHARE/WHEEL's shelters would result in a net reduction of 189 beds in April, when the organization loses its funding. That amounts to more than 10 percent of the available beds for the homeless in Seattle. "The short-term effect of this may leave some homeless individuals without shelter," the staffers wrote.

SHARE/WHEEL staff members declined to be interviewed, but Leo Rhodes, a homeless man and spokesman for the group, said that a loss of shelters is why the organization is already looking for sites the size of half a football field in and around Seattle. Locally, 39 homeless people died outside this year, and there are shelter beds for only about one-third of the estimated 8,200 homeless people in the county, he noted.

"We don't want to, but if they're not giving us space inside, we need to take it outside," said Rhodes, who has lived in tent cities off and on for a year.

In 2004, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development began requiring recipients of housing grants to collect names, dates of birth, ethnicity and gender of people who use homeless shelters.

Seattle had already been at work on such a database, called Safe Harbors.

It is a key element of a new regional plan to end homelessness in the next 10 years, in part because grant-writing foundations require such hard data, said Alan Painter, the city's lead staffer on homeless issues.

"We need to know who we're serving, what works, what doesn't," he said.

The city would protect client information the same way it did in working with HIV/AIDS patients in the 1990s, he said. Individual data would be encrypted and could not be fed into the national database without agreement from the homeless individuals and the organizations that sheltered them, he said.

Other homeless-shelter providers also are uneasy about Safe Harbors, but only SHARE/WHEEL has declined to participate.

Sue Sherbrooke, chief executive of the YMCA of Seattle-King County-Snohomish County, said she understands the need for better data but dislikes the potential invasion of privacy.

"We believe the threat it poses to client safety and the cost of compliance outweigh the value of the information that will be gathered," she said.

SHARE/WHEEL agrees, said Hunter, the group's attorney. Last year, it provided nearly 94,000 "bed nights" to the homeless. Its shelters are in donated space, provide no meals and are managed by other homeless people.

It also doesn't have anyone at its shelters who can input data. It doesn't have many computers, nor secure phone lines.

"How many times has a non-homeless person tried to end homelessness, and how many times have they done it?" said Rhodes, the SHARE/WHEEL client.

"The homeless are saying 'no' now, and people won't listen."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: bums; seattle; sharewheel; tentcity

1 posted on 11/02/2005 12:11:27 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
Somebody call Ted Nugent!.

He was always concerned about intensity in tencities.....

ok, lame, but when would I ever have another chance......and yes that dates me.

2 posted on 11/02/2005 12:14:03 PM PST by ottersnot (This tag line currently for rent. Liberals, communists, socialists need not apply. Reasonable rates.)
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To: ottersnot

I was going to post that! haha.

Its a freeforall baby


3 posted on 11/02/2005 12:16:41 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

This is just one of many reasoons why I'm terribly embarrassed to be a Seattleite.

The once-nice city of my birth has fallen all over itself in an effort to outdo San Francisco and Beserkley in Socialist depravity.

I'm guessing that they wouldn't put up with this sort of garbage in Idaho, Montana or Texas.

"sigh"


4 posted on 11/02/2005 12:17:20 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
Meanwhile they provide housing for drunks, AIDS patients, molesters....


5 posted on 11/02/2005 12:26:18 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
Wonder how many of these homeless folks have open warrants for their arrest on one (or more) felony charges? Keep guessing as the activism gang don't want you to know.

FWIW, the Chief of Police in Tucson would NOT allow the local PD to run the Katrina folk who showed up in Tucson - also wanted ONLY black officers to provide security as they would have 'more cultural sensitivity" around the refugees.

The Tucson PD union quickly labeled the Chief a "Dumbass"
6 posted on 11/02/2005 12:26:33 PM PST by ASOC (The result of choosing between the lesser of two evils, in the end, leaves you with, well, evil.)
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To: BurbankKarl

I know....it's absolutely sickening and is further destroying what little quality of life we have left here.


7 posted on 11/02/2005 12:27:33 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: BurbankKarl

What is it with socialists and wacky acronyms that spell words?


8 posted on 11/02/2005 12:43:20 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: BurbankKarl

Heck, send them to Denver, CO. We are going to build the homeless apartment buildings. Actually, the Denver taxpayers are.


9 posted on 11/02/2005 12:43:50 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: ASOC
"FWIW, the Chief of Police in Tucson would NOT allow the local PD to run the Katrina folk ... "


FWIW ... "run them" means exactly what, pray tell?



10 posted on 11/02/2005 12:44:57 PM PST by G.Mason (The replies made by this poster are for self-amusement only)
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To: BurbankKarl

So they're complaining that the federal government isn't willing to just trust them when they report the number of homeless people for which they are providing support and just give them money for how many they claim to be supporting.

The federal government doesn't have the authority to be providing homes to the homeless. That's the state's responsibility if they see fit to undertake it.

However, since our federal government doesn't seem to concerned about what they are authorized to do, I'm at least glad they aren't just handing the money out with no accounting of who it's going to help.


11 posted on 11/02/2005 12:47:11 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: BurbankKarl

It is important to register everybody and get them to billable addresses as soon as possible. We don't need to let any third-world practices get a foothold. It's not anywhere near Buenos Aires or Cairo yet, but we can't very well keep our public and private debt sky high where it should be if we have garage factories and sidewalk vendors popping up everywhere.


12 posted on 11/02/2005 12:49:02 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: G.Mason
Sorry for use of slang

Check the NCIC (crime database) and other local data banks to see if any "displaced persons" had outstanding warrants for offenses, like say, rape or child molestation - just the kind of folks you want in a shelter.
13 posted on 11/02/2005 12:49:07 PM PST by ASOC (The result of choosing between the lesser of two evils, in the end, leaves you with, well, evil.)
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To: BurbankKarl

The good taxpaying citizens of this country have to provide this information and a good lot more private information to the Federal Government on their 1040 every year.

It's only fair that the unemployed homeless who are gettin free shelter should have to provide it too.


14 posted on 11/02/2005 12:51:56 PM PST by Help!
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To: ASOC
Thanks. I guess I should have understood that, as it makes perfectly good sense to me, now that you said that. ;)




15 posted on 11/02/2005 1:06:33 PM PST by G.Mason (The replies made by this poster are for self-amusement only)
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To: BurbankKarl
Individual data would be encrypted and could not be fed into the national database without agreement from the homeless individuals and the organizations that sheltered them, [Alan Painter] said.

It amazes me that people still say things like this, and I no longer believe that they are speaking from innocent ignorance. "Security" like this tends to fail within days, and I think Mr. Painter knows it.
16 posted on 11/02/2005 1:23:34 PM PST by xenophiles
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To: xenophiles

"Security" like this tends to fail within days..."

Does this mean I don't have to "register" with my city/county/state to pay my taxes on my home? Heck - how about my federal taxes? "Someone" might get my name off "some" database so I'm not going to do it!

Oh wait - I'm the one putting IN the money so then its okay. It's only if I'm TAKING the money that I should be anonomous.


17 posted on 11/02/2005 1:33:26 PM PST by geopyg (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON! (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful))
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To: BurbankKarl; neverdem; rmlew; Cacique; firebrand

To paraphrase Eric Burdon: I gotta get out of this place, If that's the last thing I'll ever do.


18 posted on 11/02/2005 1:35:45 PM PST by Clemenza (In League with the Freemasons, The Bilderbergers, and the Learned Elders of Zion)
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To: BurbankKarl; ottersnot

Stakes are high and so am I!


19 posted on 11/02/2005 1:36:21 PM PST by Clemenza (In League with the Freemasons, The Bilderbergers, and the Learned Elders of Zion)
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To: geopyg
Oh wait - I'm the one putting IN the money so then its okay. It's only if I'm TAKING the money that I should be anonomous.

I think you mistook my point. I wasn't arguing for or against privacy. One can reasonably argue that they shouldn't have privacy because they receive public support (and maybe you are, it's hard to tell). But people like Alan Painter say "don't worry, your rights will be protected by this piece of tissue paper."

And incidentally, I think they should have the option to be anonymous. I think you should too.
20 posted on 11/03/2005 4:25:45 PM PST by xenophiles
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