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"The World Without Zionism"
http://vif2ne.ru/nvk/forum/0/co/1127426.htm ^ | Nazila Fathi

Posted on 11/01/2005 8:47:23 AM PST by RusIvan

Text of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Speech This is a translation, by Nazila Fathi in The New York Times Tehran bureau, of the October 26 speech by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to an Islamic Student Associations conference on "The World Without Zionism." The conference was held in Tehran, at the Interior Ministry.

The text of the speech was posted online, in Persian, by the Iranian Student News Agency (www.isnagency.com). Bracketed explanatory material is from Ms. Fathi.

I thank God that I have had the opportunity to participate in the event today ….

We need to examine the true origins of the issue of Palestine: is it a fight between a group of Muslims and non-Jews? Is it a fight between Judaism and other religions? Is it the fight of one country with another country? Is it the fight of one country with the Arab world? Is it a fight over the land of Palestine? I guess the answer to all these questions is ‘no.’

The establishment of the occupying regime of Qods [Jerusalem]was a major move by the world oppressor [ the United States] against the Islamic world. The situation has changed in this historical struggle. Sometimes the Muslims have won and moved forward and the world oppressor was forced to withdraw.

Unfortunately, the Islamic world has been withdrawing in the past 300 years. I do not want to examine the reasons for this, but only to review the history. The Islamic world lost its last defenses in the past 100 years and the world oppressor established the occupying regime. Therefore the struggle in Palestine today is the major front of the struggle of the Islamic world with the world oppressor and its fate will decide the destiny of the struggles of the past several hundred years.

The Palestinian nation represents the Islamic nation [Umma] against a system of oppression, and thank God, the Palestinian nation adopted Islamic behavior in an Islamic environment in their struggle and so we have witnessed their progress and success.

I need to thank you for choosing this valuable title for the conference.

Many who are disappointed in the struggle between the Islamic world and the infidels have tried to spread the blame. They say it is not possible to have a world without the United States and Zionism. But you know that this is a possible goal and slogan.

Let’s take a step back. We had a hostile regime in this country which was undemocratic, armed to the teeth and, with SAVAK, its security apparatus of SAVAK [the intelligence bureau of the Shah of Iran’s government] watched everyone. An environment of terror existed. When our dear Imam [Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the founder the Iranian revolution] said that the regime must be removed, many of those who claimed to be politically well-informed said it was not possible. All the corrupt governments were in support of the regime when Imam Khomeini started his movement. All the Western and Eastern countries supported the regime even after the massacre of September 7 [1978] and said the removal of the regime was not possible. But our people resisted and it is 27 years now that we have survived without a regime dependant on the United States. The tyranny of the East and the West over the world must should end, but weak people who can see only what lies in front of them cannot believe this.

Who could believe that one day we could witness the collapse of the Eastern Empire? But we have seen its fall during our lives and it collapsed in such a way that we have to refer to libraries because no trace of it is left. Imam [Khomeini] said Saddam must go and he said he would grow weaker than anyone could imagine. Now you see the man who spoke with such arrogance ten years ago that one would have thought he was immortal, is being tried in his own country in handcuffs and shackles by those who he believed supported him and with whose backing he committed his crimes.

Our dear Imam said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement. We cannot compromise over the issue of Palestine. Is it possible to create a new front in the heart of an old front. This would be a defeat and whoever accepts the legitimacy of this regime [Israel] has in fact, signed the defeat of the Islamic world. Our dear Imam targeted the heart of the world oppressor in his struggle, meaning the occupying regime. I have no doubt that the new wave that has started in Palestine, and we witness it in the Islamic world too, will eliminate this disgraceful stain from the Islamic world. But we must be aware of tricks.

For over 50 years the world oppressor tried to give legitimacy to the occupying regime and it has taken measures in this direction to stabilize it. About 27 or 28 years ago they took a major step and unfortunately one of the leading countries made a mistake which we hope will correct it.[an apparent reference to the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel].

Recently they [the Israelis] tried a new trick. They want to show the evacuation from the Gaza strip, which was imposed on them by Palestinians, as a final victory for the Palestinians and end the issue of Palestine with the excuse of establishing a Palestinian government next to themselves. Today, they want to involve Palestinians with mischief and trick them into fighting with one another over political positions so that they would drop the issue of Palestine.

They want to convince some of the Islamic countries that, since they evacuated the Gaza strip with good intentions, the legitimacy of their corrupt regime should be recognized. I hope Palestinian groups and people are aware of this trick.

The issue of Palestine is not over at all. It will be over the day a Palestinian government, which belongs to the Palestinian people, comes to power; the day that all refugees return to their homes; a democratic government elected by the people comes to power. Of course those who have come from far away to plunder this land have no right to choose for this nation.

I hope the Palestinian people will remain alert and aware in the same way that they have continued their struggle in the past ten years.

If we get through this brief period successfully, the path of eliminating the occupying regime will be easy and down-hill.

I warn all leaders of the Islamic world that they should be aware of this trick. Anyone who recognizes this regime because of the pressure of the World oppressor, or because of naiveté or selfishness, will be eternally disgraced and will burn in the fury of the Islamic nations.

Those who are sitting in closed rooms cannot decide for the Islamic nation and cannot allow this historical enemy to exist in the heart of the Islamic world.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 21stcenturycrusades; antiamericanism; antisemitism; holywar; iran; islam; israel; mahmoudahmadinejad; president; religionofpeacealert; religiousintolerance; speech
Just found the text of speech of Iran' president which made so much noise recently. It is where he threaten Israel. I saw many citations and exerpts of that speech but didn't read it in full. I think it is important to know what was said firsthandly.
1 posted on 11/01/2005 8:47:24 AM PST by RusIvan
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To: RusIvan

Does he explain why muslims are at war with Buddhists, Hindus, and Christians as well as Jews?

This is true around the world, not just in Israel.

Their supremecist political system which casts muslims above Jews-Christians above "everybody else" under law is incompatible with the rest of the world.


2 posted on 11/01/2005 8:52:00 AM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: RusIvan

"World Without Zionism" is great for nice, light bed time reading.


3 posted on 11/01/2005 8:54:13 AM PST by Rosemont
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To: RusIvan

I suggest he look more to the example he cites of Saddam in shackles than the example he cites of the fall of the Soviet Union. HE may find himself out of power.


4 posted on 11/01/2005 8:54:44 AM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: RusIvan

He makes a big issue of the fact that no one thought the Soviet Union would collapse, no one thought Saddam could be overthrown, and yet they are gone.

He doesn't draw the obvious conclusion. Reagan said "boo" and the Soviet Empire vanished. Bush waved his hand, and Saddam fell into a hole.

Ahmadinejad should pray every night that Bush or Bush's successor doesn't start to find him interesting.


5 posted on 11/01/2005 9:03:24 AM PST by marron
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To: RusIvan

I can't help but think how much nicer the world would be today, if there were a world without islam...

How many of today's wars and strife are directly related to islamic regeims?

Mark


6 posted on 11/01/2005 9:09:20 AM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: weegee; RusIvan

Thank you for this post, Ivan.

Absolutely sterling question, weegee.


7 posted on 11/01/2005 9:12:27 AM PST by Spirited
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To: RusIvan

A world without Islam would be a peaceable world.


8 posted on 11/01/2005 9:18:52 AM PST by tkathy (Do-nothings are not the ones who have saved oppressed people from tyranny.)
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To: RusIvan

There is a "The World Without Zionism"

It's called HELL.


9 posted on 11/01/2005 9:33:03 AM PST by SaltyJoe (A mother's sorrowful heart and personal sacrifice redeems her lost child's soul.)
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To: RusIvan

Just typical fare for that part of the world. Sadly.


10 posted on 11/01/2005 9:33:21 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: RusIvan

Do you think arming Iran with an A-Bomb, makes them less or more dangerous?


11 posted on 11/01/2005 9:35:55 AM PST by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: RusIvan
...and thank God, the Palestinian nation adopted Islamic behavior in an Islamic environment in their struggle and so we have witnessed their progress and success.

This is hilarious. After 50 years, they're still living in refugee camps, providing cannon fodder for Islamists all over the world.

They cheer in Saudi Arabia when some Palistinian nutball commits mass murder, and they cry crocodile tears when the Israelis blow up Palestinians. But they don't care enough about them to build them decent homes, or a livable infrastructure, because they're more valuable as "symbols of oppression" living in squalor.

12 posted on 11/01/2005 9:59:32 AM PST by Kenton (The only hope for Africa is re-colonization)
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To: RusIvan

I try to imagine a world without Muslims, and that's what it's going to take before this threat disapates.


13 posted on 11/01/2005 10:01:42 AM PST by Kenton (The only hope for Africa is re-colonization)
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To: Kenton; SJackson; Nachum; ChicagoHebrew; af_vet_1981
Let's start with a difference of opinion with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. It is his opinion that he is alive. Let it be our opinion and actual reality that he no longer be alive. It is a start.

Snuffing Islamofascism: one nutcase at a time.

14 posted on 11/01/2005 10:34:10 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: RusIvan

The new Hitler.


15 posted on 11/01/2005 11:02:36 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

WHere ARE those MI5 and James Bond guys when you need one to pop off an evil dictator?


16 posted on 11/01/2005 11:07:10 AM PST by princess leah
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To: RusIvan
They say it is not possible to have a world without the United States and Zionism. But you know that this is a possible goal and slogan.

Hey, libs - still think we're not at war with the islamists?
17 posted on 11/01/2005 11:15:04 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: RusIvan
Imam [Khomeini] said Saddam must go and he said he would grow weaker than anyone could imagine

That's right, Ahmadinejad. What you failed to do after ten years of trying was accomplished in three days by the 'great oppressor'. You would be well advised to keep this in mind while you shoot off your mouth threatening everyone in the world with Islamic fascism.

18 posted on 11/01/2005 11:16:45 AM PST by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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