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Prince Charles to plead Islam's cause to Bush
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Posted on 10/30/2005 4:51:06 PM PST by mhuye

The Prince of Wales will try to persuade George W Bush and Americans of the merits of Islam this week because he thinks the United States has been too intolerant of the religion since September 11.

The Prince, who leaves on Tuesday for an eight-day tour of the US, has voiced private concerns over America's "confrontational" approach to Muslim countries and its failure to appreciate Islam's strengths.

The Duchess of Cornwall will accompany her husband The Prince raised his concerns when he met senior Muslims in London in November 2001. The gathering took place just two months after the attacks on New York and Washington. "I find the language and rhetoric coming from America too confrontational," the Prince said, according to one leader at the meeting.

It is understood that Prince Charles did not - and does not - believe that the actions of 19 hijackers should tarnish the reputation of hundreds of millions of law-abiding Muslims around the world.

Khalid Mahmood, the Labour MP for Birmingham Perry Bar, was also at the meeting at St James's Palace. "His criticism of America was a general one of the Americans not having the appreciation we have for Islam and its culture," he said.

Mr Mahmood and other Muslims present stressed that Prince Charles did not go so far as to criticise the US-led invasion of Afghanistan in October 2001. More recently, he has been careful not to express his views on Iraq.

The Prince also spoke of his sympathy for America after the terrorist attacks that claimed the lives of almost 3,000 people. He said he wanted to promote better relations between the different religions of the world.

Those present at the meeting in 2001 included Sir Iqbal Sacrani, the secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, and Hashir Faruqi, the chief editor of Impact International, an Islamic affairs magazine.

Prince Charles, who is about to embark on his first official foreign tour since his marriage to the Duchess of Cornwall, wants Americans - including Mr Bush - to share his fondness for Islam. He has agreed to attend a seminar on religions at Georgetown University, Washington, on Thursday: the only event where he will not be accompanied by the Duchess.

"The seminar will look at how faith groups can alleviate social problems in their community," a royal aide said.

The Prince and Duchess will attend a lunch and dinner with President Bush and his wife, Laura, at the White House on Wednesday.

Prince Charles has done more than any other member of the Royal Family in history to understand Islam. He said in 1994 that when he became Supreme Governor of the Church of England, he would rather be "defender of faiths" than "defender of the faith".

A year earlier Prince Charles made a speech, acclaimed throughout the Arab world, on relations between Islam and the West. He urged the West to overcome its "unthinkable prejudices" about Islam and its customs and laws.

He spoke warmly of the West's debt to the culture of Islam and distanced moderate Muslims from misguided militants. "Extremism is no more the monopoly of Islam than it is the monopoly of other religions, including Christianity," he said.

A senior aide to Prince Charles said yesterday: "The Prince has never promoted political messages around religion. He has simply said that he wants a greater tolerance and understanding of each other religions which will, in turn, promote better relations between faiths."

A spokesman for Clarence House declined to discuss the Prince's comments four years ago. "We never discuss private conversations," he said.

Prince Charles has been wooing the US media ahead of next week's tour when he will visit New York, Washington and San Francisco. It is considered a risky venture because Diana, Princess of Wales, who died eight years ago, was so revered in the US.

In an interview to be shown on CBS's 60 Minutes today, he speaks of his desire to enrich people's lives through his work. "I only hope that when I am dead and gone they might appreciate it a little more," he jokes.


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1 posted on 10/30/2005 4:51:07 PM PST by mhuye
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To: mhuye

Bush luvs muslims.


2 posted on 10/30/2005 4:52:28 PM PST by ichabod1 (PC equals aPCzment)
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To: mhuye

We've long since had a policy of not taking orders from the British crown.


3 posted on 10/30/2005 4:52:34 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: mhuye

Hey, Prince DoDo, STFU!!!!


4 posted on 10/30/2005 4:52:43 PM PST by michaelbfree
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To: mhuye

At one point didn't it look like he was involved in the Moslem religion (If calling 'em Moslems is good enough for Thomas Sowell, it is good enough for me).


5 posted on 10/30/2005 4:52:55 PM PST by Chickensoup (Turk...turk...turk....turk....turk...turkey!!!!!!)
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To: mhuye

Poor old Charles,Islam's good pal.

Unbelievable what someone will do to feel important.


6 posted on 10/30/2005 4:53:31 PM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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To: mhuye

Tell the British "royal" to stay the f*#k home.

England is already paying the price for its "tolerance".


8 posted on 10/30/2005 4:54:00 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: mhuye

Why would anyone give a flying flip what that inbred moron thinks?


9 posted on 10/30/2005 4:54:14 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: mhuye

You know, all I've ever heard from W is how peace-loving Muslims are. What IS the prince smoking these days?


10 posted on 10/30/2005 4:54:17 PM PST by D_Idaho
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To: mhuye
His endorsement only stands to reason.After all,he'll someday be King of the nation with the largest Muslim population outside of Indonesia.
12 posted on 10/30/2005 4:56:32 PM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: mhuye

I thought he was defender of the faith. As king, won't that be his title? He should STFU and fix everything if he is so smart.


13 posted on 10/30/2005 4:56:45 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Free choice is not what it seems)
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To: mhuye

And just what would the Islamic case be? That they continue to murder and terrorize with impunity, while the West turns the other cheek (and allows more of them to immigrate)? GTFOOH. Methinks the Queen needs to give Prince Chuckie a good (long overdue) spanking.


14 posted on 10/30/2005 4:56:45 PM PST by rbg81
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To: mhuye
"He said he wanted to promote better relations between the different religions of the world."

This moron should get his own religion straightened out before he starts telling anybody else what to do.

WAFM

15 posted on 10/30/2005 4:57:38 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: mhuye

Someone should remind Chucky that Americans stopped listening to British royalty in 1776.


16 posted on 10/30/2005 4:58:22 PM PST by Alouette (Islam gives terrorism a bad name.)
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To: mhuye
When Islam starts cleaning it own house, we might pay some mind. Since we are infidels that should be made acquainted with death and our fortunes are to be plundered we prefer to look out for our own.
17 posted on 10/30/2005 5:00:09 PM PST by oyez
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To: mhuye

The Prince should go to India and try to convince them that it's the Religion of Peace.


18 posted on 10/30/2005 5:00:15 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: mhuye
[HRH Prince Charles] has simply said that he wants a greater tolerance and understanding of each other

'Tain't possible. Tolerance and understanding are mutually exclusive. The more you tolerate the Religion of Peace® the less you understand it. And vice-versa.

What part of "schoolgirls beheaded" does that jug-eared mediocrity not understand?

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

19 posted on 10/30/2005 5:00:21 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: mhuye
Prince Charles? Oh, yeah, he's got credibility.

Rolling Eyes

20 posted on 10/30/2005 5:00:33 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: rbg81
Sady some members of the royal family believed in appeasement.
21 posted on 10/30/2005 5:00:48 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Chickensoup

There have been some suggestions that he actually did convert to Islam about 10 years ago.


22 posted on 10/30/2005 5:02:01 PM PST by livius
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To: mhuye

"Ears" can flap his way back home. Inbreeding breeds idiots.


23 posted on 10/30/2005 5:02:03 PM PST by hdstmf (too)
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To: Alouette
Americans stopped listening to British royalty in 1776.

Indeed. Fortunate it is that George III did not live to see what became of his line.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

24 posted on 10/30/2005 5:02:30 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: mhuye
President Bush certainly doesn't need Charles to lecture him on the (so-called) "merits" of Islam.

President Hosts Iftaar Dinner

THE PRESIDENT: Our distinguished guests represent the millions of Muslims that we're proud to call Americans, and many Islamic nations are represented here that America is proud to call friend. We welcome the representatives from many countries with large Muslim populations. I want to thank you all for coming to celebrate an honored tradition of the Muslim faith, and wish you a, "Ramadan Mubarak."

Ramadan is the holiest time of the Muslim year. According to Islamic teaching, this month commemorates the revelation of God's word to the Prophet Muhammad in the form of the Koran.

One Muslim leader said: "It's a national and Islamic obligation to assist one's neighbors when they are in need." The American people saw that spirit as we recovered from Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. The world sees that spirit, that compassion of Islam, through the countless acts of kindness following the recent earthquake in southeast -- in South Asia.

America is fortunate to count such good-hearted men and women among our fellow citizens. We have great respect for the commitment that all Muslims make to faith, family, and education. And Americans of many backgrounds seek to learn more about the rich tradition of Islam.

25 posted on 10/30/2005 5:03:06 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: mhuye
The Prince of Wales will try to persuade George W Bush and Americans of the merits of Islam

I'll look forward with interests to hearing reports of what Chuck has to say.

Personally, I have been waiting in vain since 9-11 to learn even one thing about Islam that doesn't totally digust me.

26 posted on 10/30/2005 5:03:12 PM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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To: D_Idaho
all I've ever heard from W is how peace-loving Muslims are

Really? He called them Islamofascists the other day.

27 posted on 10/30/2005 5:03:16 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: mhuye

Maybe President Bush could plead the cause of Catholics to the Prince.

Saaaaaayyyyy.......

Didn't I see the Missus in the eighth race at Belmont yesterday??


28 posted on 10/30/2005 5:03:18 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily. Apply Sparingly.)
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To: michaelbfree
Hey, Prince DoDo, STFU!!!!

Cha Ching..........we have a winner!

29 posted on 10/30/2005 5:04:50 PM PST by makoman
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To: mhuye

Charles is on a fool's errand, but the shoe fits perfectly.


30 posted on 10/30/2005 5:05:09 PM PST by hershey
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To: mhuye

Prince Charles is soft in the head.

Of course, we knew that when we saw our first pictures of Camilla...


31 posted on 10/30/2005 5:05:41 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: mainepatsfan
We've long since had a policy of not taking orders from the British crown.

An besides, if and when he ever becomes King of England himself, a large part of his mostly ceremonial job is to be Defender of the Faith. Perhaps Mummy should have a word with him and remind him.

32 posted on 10/30/2005 5:06:40 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: Maceman
Personally, I have been waiting in vain since 9-11 to learn even one thing about Islam that doesn't totally digust me.

God Bless..........isn't that the truth!

33 posted on 10/30/2005 5:07:12 PM PST by makoman
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To: livius

I thought he had converted to Islam. There was some ceremony and he was wearing one of his freakish outfits. I will see if I can find more info.


34 posted on 10/30/2005 5:07:16 PM PST by Chickensoup (Turk...turk...turk....turk....turk...turkey!!!!!!)
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To: mhuye
He said in 1994 that when he became Supreme Governor of the Church of England, he would rather be "defender of faiths" than "defender of the faith".

Some "defender of the faith" he is!

The man (sic) is a useless worm.

35 posted on 10/30/2005 5:07:20 PM PST by Gritty ("There are no 'civilians'. You are either the House Of War or the House Of Islam - Hani Al-Siba’i)
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To: Mr. Mojo

"And Americans of many backgrounds seek to learn more about the rich tradition of Islam."

BARFMAO.....more crap from our conservative Prez. As for Chuck..........we don't want your muslim infestation over here.


36 posted on 10/30/2005 5:07:28 PM PST by calrighty (Taglines for sale or let......1 liners 50 cents! C'mon troops, finish em off!!)
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To: Uncle Vlad

Bring back the Stuarts!!!


37 posted on 10/30/2005 5:08:11 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: mhuye
The Prince of Wales will try to persuade George W Bush and Americans of the merits of Islam this week

ROTFL! This DEFINITELY goes in the "most assinine statement of the year" category!

38 posted on 10/30/2005 5:08:30 PM PST by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: mainepatsfan

Huzzah!


39 posted on 10/30/2005 5:09:20 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: D_Idaho

He says that in one breath and in the next kills them in Iraq and Afghanistan. Good enough for me. :)


40 posted on 10/30/2005 5:09:36 PM PST by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: mhuye
I ran across the following this afternoon.

Wahi: the Supernatural Basis of Islam

I highly recommend it to those of you who are interested in an analysis of Muhammed's mental disorder. It is written from a Hindu perspective. There are a few paragraphs with which I disagree, but I believe they have the prophet pegged. If you don't have time to read it now, please bookmark.

41 posted on 10/30/2005 5:10:24 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Uncle Vlad

There must be one or two of them still living in exile somewhere in France.


42 posted on 10/30/2005 5:10:31 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: hershey
Charles is on a fool's errand, but the shoe fits perfectly.

Well said!!!

43 posted on 10/30/2005 5:12:07 PM PST by makoman
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To: mhuye

Prince Harry's swastika-wearing. now makes sense.


44 posted on 10/30/2005 5:12:27 PM PST by eakole
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To: mhuye
he thinks the United States has been too intolerant of the religion since September 11.

Have they been more tolerant of us since 9-11 and I just missed it?

45 posted on 10/30/2005 5:12:44 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: mhuye
The Prince of Wales will try to persuade George W Bush and Americans of the merits of Islam this week because he thinks the United States has been too intolerant of the religion since September 11.

This from the polo chump. He spends more time playing polo and tending gardens, while the rest of the free world is going after the Islamofascists.

46 posted on 10/30/2005 5:14:12 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: Gay State Conservative

Hopefully, he will pass before his mum, eh?


47 posted on 10/30/2005 5:21:48 PM PST by MCCRon58 (Just say NO to Democrats!)
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To: mhuye
Dear Prince Charles,

Please do not bother.

Beheadings
Suicidal Fanatics
Intolerance
Ignorance
Mad Mullahs
Threats directed at our nation.
Conversion or death.
The legacy of Islam is well known to us here.
48 posted on 10/30/2005 5:26:33 PM PST by A message ( Being a "Progressive" means never having to be truthful to yourself)
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To: mhuye

Bush's response to the British Brat: "Go home before I bitchslap your Grandma!"


49 posted on 10/30/2005 5:28:12 PM PST by splint (...another proud member of the sand to glass club!)
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To: Uncle Vlad

Perhaps Mummy should keep him home.


50 posted on 10/30/2005 5:30:34 PM PST by abclily
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