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Minuteman: We'll remain until U.S. relieves us [South Texas]
Corpus Christi Caller-Times ^ | October 30, 2005 | Brandi Dean

Posted on 10/30/2005 4:10:19 PM PST by SwinneySwitch

Group says it has reported 300-800 illegal immigrants

The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps will wrap up its first month of watching the Texas border this week, and the group says the month was a success and it has no plans to quit now.

"We are determined that we are not going to leave until (the government) relieves us of our duties," said Al Garza, the director of operations for the Minuteman group in Texas. "It will be with limited personnel, but we know where the hotspots are, and we're going to deploy there."

Garza said there were about 600 volunteers involved this month, and about 300 remain. Mike Vickers, the Falfurrias sector chief, said more volunteers keep coming to replace those who have gone home.

"We're still hard at it," he said. "Even though our official operation ends Monday, we're hanging tough."

Garza and Vickers' estimates vary on just how successful the month was. Garza said he believes the group has reported about 300 sightings to the Border Patrol, and about half of those were detained. Vickers, who owns the Falfurrias ranch where the Minuteman group is headquartered, said the group has reported more than 800 illegal immigrants to the Border Patrol around Falfurrias and in the Rio Grande Valley.

Roy Cervantes, spokesman for the Border Patrol's McAllen sector, said he could not confirm either number over the weekend.

One thing Garza and Vickers agree upon, however, is that reports of their minutemen harassing local residents by pulling them over late at night - or by carrying guns into restaurants - are untrue.

"That's a fallacy," Garza said. "I think it's a fabricated story. If anyone has done that, it was not the minutemen. The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps does not pull anybody over. We do not arrest. We do not detain. Nor do we pretend to be law enforcement."

Vickers blamed the stories on people pretending to be minutemen to make the group look bad.

"I can just tell you that's not the minutemen," he said. "The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps that we have here absolutely does not do anything like that."

Several Falfurrias restaurant proprietors who were contacted said they hadn't seen any gun-toting minutemen, or any harassment.

Vickers said the Contra Minutemen Coalition, who made some of the accusations and have called the minutemen racists, were racists themselves.

"They have absolutely no idea what we do because they can't step one foot on this property without landing in jail," Vickers said. "I think they ought to be tried for treason. If they were really concerned about America, they'd be out there trying to stop this invasion, but they're not."

The Caller-Times made three appointments to observe the Minuteman group's watches, but all three appointments were canceled.

Contact Brandi Dean at 886-3778 or deanb@caller.com deanb@caller.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; texasminutemen
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To: HiJinx

No road, not public anyway, in most places.


21 posted on 10/30/2005 6:34:23 PM PST by SouthTexas (Texans vote FOR prop 2, Nov 8th)
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To: SouthTexas

This one isn't public either, it's for use by the USBP and other law enforcement - Customs, Park Police, Forest Rangers, etc.


22 posted on 10/30/2005 6:37:51 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Season's Greetings ~)
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To: SouthTexas; Americanwolf; HiJinx

As a Minuteman who sat on the border for a week (I know not a lot of time) I can tell you that watching is more P.R. then actually accomplishing something. If we want to stop the influx of illegals we have to go after those that hire them and support them. P.S.- I will go back in Jan. and April to defend the border.AWB


23 posted on 10/30/2005 6:38:40 PM PST by Americanwolfsbrother (Don't hate on someone for using their mind.)
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To: HiJinx
We have no forests on the border and not that many parks, other than Big Bend, which is the feds and is reportedly, a favorite drug running spot. I would imagine INS has access to just about whatever they want, especially if the landowners are having issues with traffic.

Over the length of our border, there would be at least some resistance to establishing a corridor, which is the owners right to restrict access to their own property, be it from illegals or the federal government.

24 posted on 10/30/2005 6:46:08 PM PST by SouthTexas (Texans vote FOR prop 2, Nov 8th)
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To: SouthTexas

Probably not but I was thinking about easement routes of a small access of dirt road . The county probably already has easement rights anyway. You are right though. The government would want to " park and expand"


25 posted on 10/30/2005 6:46:20 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Americanwolfsbrother
Agreed. Far too many cities have video, and complaints, of illegals gathering at "work" stations. Nothing at all is done by the local police.

A lot of blather about the illegal problem by places north. Seems they want border states to fix the inflow, yet they're not willing to send back the ones they have.

26 posted on 10/30/2005 6:50:38 PM PST by SouthTexas (Texans vote FOR prop 2, Nov 8th)
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To: FreedomCalls

I think the first 300 feet is federal property.


27 posted on 10/30/2005 6:56:26 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date on the oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic!)
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To: CindyDawg
As AWB said, and I agree, the problem is with employment. Just ENFORCE the law there and you remove the incentive to come.

Have seen local LE stop and then release illegals, if they are doing nothing else illegal, because of housing costs waiting for the feds to retrieve them. This is getting a little better though.

28 posted on 10/30/2005 6:58:45 PM PST by SouthTexas (Texans vote FOR prop 2, Nov 8th)
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To: B4Ranch

What about water access?


29 posted on 10/30/2005 7:08:25 PM PST by SouthTexas (Texans vote FOR prop 2, Nov 8th)
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To: SwinneySwitch; All

I know this may sound odd, but is there anyway I can personally thank the Minutemen for the job they are doing?


30 posted on 10/30/2005 7:11:09 PM PST by Clemenza (Patriotism YES! Nationalism NO!)
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To: Clemenza

Contact Us
Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, Inc.
PO Box 1489
Tombstone, AZ 85638
(520) 457-2320
Or you can email us at info@MinutemanHQ.com


31 posted on 10/30/2005 7:18:25 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!)
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To: SouthTexas
You would try and solve the illegal problem by violating the property rights of American citizens?

How would someone's rights be violated? Are your rights violated because there are military bases in the US? I don't get where you are coming from.

32 posted on 10/30/2005 7:18:39 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: B4Ranch

Then that should solve the problem. Why can't the Minutemen sit there? And more importantly, why can't the Border Patrol prevent people from crossing there?


33 posted on 10/30/2005 7:20:17 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: SwinneySwitch

Thanks! I'll send them a note. Hope to meet some of the MM sometime, though I don't know when.


34 posted on 10/30/2005 7:22:47 PM PST by Clemenza (There is no escape, I am God's Lonely Man)
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To: FreedomCalls
The property owners along the border. Military bases are not located on private property. B4R stated there is 300', I don't know. Cannot find even a remote reference to it.
35 posted on 10/30/2005 7:30:26 PM PST by SouthTexas (Texans vote FOR prop 2, Nov 8th)
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To: SwinneySwitch

"Follow the money! Drug smugglers, Slavers, Terroristas?"

Washington DC


36 posted on 10/30/2005 7:39:08 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: SouthTexas
which is the owners right to restrict access to their own property, be it from illegals or the federal government.

I really have a hard time believing that private landowners own the United States Border and access to it...

37 posted on 10/30/2005 7:40:21 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Season's Greetings ~)
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To: SouthTexas
The property owners along the border. Military bases are not located on private property.

Well, duh. Of course not. The land would have to be purchased. What did you think, they would simply steal it? Land for military bases is always purchased from private owners unless the Feds already own it. But if a 300' stip already exists, that should be good enough.

38 posted on 10/30/2005 7:57:04 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
That's why I've called for federalizing a quarter- to half-mile strip of land on our side of the border and declaring it a "military base" so that anyone caught on it can be searched without a warrant or probable cause, charged with criminal trespass, and sent home just like it would be if they were caught on any other military base in the country.

That would involve a taking of privately owned land.

I have a friend who's family had thousands of acres of land taken by the government during WWII for a military base. This was supposed to be for only as long as the war lasted. Years after the war the government still retained possesion of the land, when the ranchers involved tried to get their land back, the land was condemed because of contamination from military operations, the ranchers were paid pennys on the dollar for their land.

39 posted on 10/30/2005 8:04:55 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: FreedomCalls; HiJinx
Texas is a bit different than the rest of the states. The ROT freely joined the US, part of the biggest reason we DON'T have a lot of federal property like the other western states.

There may be an easement of sorts, I don't know, but with eminent domain apparently fine with the SCOTUS, we cannot give them any ideas.

What's wrong with the rest of the country NOT hiring the illegals?

40 posted on 10/30/2005 8:08:59 PM PST by SouthTexas (Texans vote FOR prop 2, Nov 8th)
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