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Sept. 2004: Bush vs. The CIA (What PlameGate is Really All About)
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/robertnovak/2004/09/27/13146.html ^ | 9-27-04 | Robert Novak

Posted on 10/28/2005 9:47:23 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier

Sep 27, 2004

WASHINGTON -- A few hours after George W. Bush dismissed a pessimistic CIA report on Iraq as "just guessing," the analyst who identified himself as its author told a private dinner last week of secret, unheeded warnings years ago about going to war in Iraq. This exchange leads to the unavoidable conclusion that the president of the United States and the Central Intelligence Agency are at war with each other.

Paul R. Pillar, the CIA's national intelligence officer for the Near East and South Asia, sat down Tuesday night in a large West Coast city with a select group of private citizens. He was not talking off the cuff. Relying on a multi-paged, single-spaced memorandum, Pillar said he and his colleagues concluded early in the Bush administration that military intervention in Iraq would intensify anti-American hostility throughout Islam. This was not from a CIA retiree but an active senior official. (Pillar, no covert operative, is listed openly in the Federal Staff Directory.)

For President Bush to publicly write off a CIA paper as just guessing is without precedent. For the agency to go semi-public is not only unprecedented but shocking. George Tenet's retirement as Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) removed the buffer between president and agency. As the new DCI, Porter Goss inherits an extraordinarily sensitive situation.

Pillar's Tuesday night presentation was conducted under what used to be called the Lindley Rule (devised by Newsweek's Ernest K. Lindley): the identity of the speaker, to whom he spoke, and the fact that he spoke at all are secret, but the substance of what he said can be reported. This dinner, however, knocks the Lindley Rule on its head. The substance was less significant than the forbidden background details.

The Bush-CIA tension escalated Sept. 15 when The New York Times reported a National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) that was circulated in August (not July as the newspaper reported), spelling out "a dark assessment of Iraq" with civil war as the "worst case" outcome. The NIE was prepared by Pillar, and well-placed sources believe Pillar leaked it, though he denied that at Tuesday night's dinner.

The immediate White House reaction to the NIE, from spokesman Scott McClellan, was to associate it with "pessimists" and "hand-wringers." With Iraqi interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi at his side at the United Nations, Bush said of the CIA: "They were just guessing as to what the conditions might be like."

A few hours later, Pillar discussed the Iraqi war in a context of increased aversion to the U.S. -- an attitude he said his East Asia section at the CIA was aware of three years ago and feared would be exacerbated by U.S. military intervention. When Pillar was asked why this was not made clear to the president and other higher authorities, his answer was that nobody asked -- not even DCI Tenet.

The CIA official spokesman said Pillar's West Coast appearance was approved by his "management team" at Langley as part of an ongoing "outreach" program. However, the spokesman said, Pillar told him that the fact I knew his name meant somebody had violated the off-the-record nature of his remarks. In other words, the CIA bureaucracy wants a license to criticize the president and the former DCI without being held accountable.

Through most of the Bush administration, the CIA high command has been engaged in a bitter struggle with the Pentagon. CIA officials refer to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Under Secretary Douglas Feith as "ideologues." Nevertheless, it is clear the CIA's wrath has now extended to the White House. Bush reduced the tensions a little on Thursday, this time in a joint Washington press conference with Allawi, by saying his use of the word "guess" was "unfortunate."

Modern history is filled with intelligence bureaus turning against their own governments, for good or ill. In the final days of World War II, the German Abwehr conspired against Hitler. Soviet intelligence was a state within a state. More recently, Pakistani intelligence was plotting with Muslim terrorists. The CIA is a long way from those extremes, but it is supposed to be a resource -- not a critic -- for the president.


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So here is what the CIA had been up to. Was Joe Wilson's mission likewise designed to publicly embarrass Bush?

Otherwise, why was Wilson allowed to do a CIA mission without signing the customary non-disclosure form? Didn't anyone consider the risk to the secrecy of his wife's identity if he started writing op-eds about his intelligence mission?

1 posted on 10/28/2005 9:47:24 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier
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To: The Old Hoosier

Too bad Fitzgerald seems to have jumped on board the DNC/NYT/rogue CIA train. I was hoping that he was an honest prosecutor. Just another liberal flunky, evidently.


2 posted on 10/28/2005 9:50:22 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Well, it looks like Fritzgerald didn't go after the real criminals.
3 posted on 10/28/2005 9:50:28 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: The Old Hoosier

Thier needs to be an investigation into whether certain elements at the CIA including Plame and Wilson concocted an operation to bring down Bush.


4 posted on 10/28/2005 9:54:52 AM PDT by HOYA97 (Hoya Saxa = What Rocks)
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"....the analyst who identified himself as its author told a private dinner last week of secret, unheeded warnings years ago about going to war in Iraq."

"Relying on a multi-paged, single-spaced memorandum, Pillar said he and his colleagues concluded early in the Bush administration that military intervention in Iraq would intensify anti-American hostility throughout Islam."

Is THAT all there is, LOL? He and his colleagues are positively BRILLIANT, because they figured that one in advance :)


5 posted on 10/28/2005 9:59:12 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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... For President Bush to publicly write off a CIA paper as just guessing is without precedent....

These are the clowns who heard about the collapse of the Soviet Union when they read it in the New York Times.

Disband them and put them on the streets as meter maids, where they might be almost effective.


6 posted on 10/28/2005 10:00:16 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: HOYA97

CIA? More like CYA.


7 posted on 10/28/2005 10:00:44 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: HOYA97

If Freepers and others don't do everything possible to derail this railroading of the President, than Nixon and the Watergate situation which the left invented and flakked, are going to look like a tea party: as our national security from the onslaught of Islam, without and within, is at stake; nothing less.
V's wife.


8 posted on 10/28/2005 10:01:00 AM PDT by ventana
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This exchange leads to the unavoidable conclusion that the president of the United States and the Central Intelligence Agency are at war with each other.

Last time that happened.(JFK...Bay of Pigs)

a president died.

9 posted on 10/28/2005 10:06:48 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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So here is what the CIA had been up to. Was Joe Wilson's mission likewise designed to publicly embarrass Bush?

Of course it is. The CIA has become a den of beurocrats who care more about maintaining their own butts in their cushy offices than they do about the interests of the country. Yes, I'm sure there are exceptions, and, yes, I really believe this.

10 posted on 10/28/2005 10:06:52 AM PDT by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect.)
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-"Too bad Fitzgerald seems to have jumped on board the DNC/NYT/rogue CIA train. I was hoping that he was an honest prosecutor. Just another liberal flunky, evidently. "

What is the entire dossier on this Fitzgerald? Can anyone post information about this guy. He's been lauded as a "great" proscutor. But what does that mean?

Who does he hang around with?

Who does he contribute to?

11 posted on 10/28/2005 10:07:34 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: demlosers

There were no real criminals. Plame was no longer an undercover agent when this happened.


12 posted on 10/28/2005 10:08:24 AM PDT by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect.)
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To: The Old Hoosier

And Novak's agenda?


13 posted on 10/28/2005 10:10:27 AM PDT by OldFriend (G-D IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION)
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And so how is it that we were attacked on 9/11 if this brilliant deduction was made early in the Bush administrataion.

The murderers just 'knew'?

They murdered Daniel Pearl because??

It's clear now that the CIA has enemies in it's midst.

The State Department too, and for that matter, every single governmental institution has people who hate this country with all their being.

14 posted on 10/28/2005 10:12:45 AM PDT by OldFriend (G-D IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION)
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So, maybe we'll find out who really sent Joe Wilson to Africa.

And maybe the media will be forced to acknowledge that Wilson lied in his book and in his testimony before Congress.

And maybe George Tenent will be held accountable for (knowingly?) providing false information to the Bush Administration regarding WMD's. Or that Tenet was the one who first told Cheney about Plame.

Maybe the fact that the CIA (and State Dept.) has been infiltrated by agenda driven liberal elitists will be revealed.

Or Libby will take the fall and it will all be swept under the carpet again.
15 posted on 10/28/2005 10:13:14 AM PDT by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Fitz-hack is trying to be another Lawrence Walsh.


16 posted on 10/28/2005 10:13:49 AM PDT by OldFriend (G-D IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION)
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To: The Old Hoosier

Fire the jerk.


17 posted on 10/28/2005 10:13:58 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: Cicero

Sadly, Comey the Deputy Atty General, appointed Fitzgerald to this investigation, and they are BEST FRIENDS.....and Comey is the one who gave Sandy Burglar a Slap on the Wrist for DESTROYING and Stealing Classified Docs.


18 posted on 10/28/2005 10:16:17 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: The Old Hoosier

- pardon Libby today!(that will really set them off!)
- fire ALL CIA Bureaucrats above G-15 (or whatever
the magic level is)
- aggressively investigate all leaking from CIA
- likewise investigate ALL leaks that have been
coming out of this grand jury


19 posted on 10/28/2005 10:17:21 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: OldFriend

Wonder what Bob Novak is thinking....and will he ever tell who gave him this info!!


20 posted on 10/28/2005 10:17:35 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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