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Basically, this is another of those commentaries on how the Left/Dems need to redefine the 'values' debate. They were quite common after all of the hype over the values vote last November, and they pretty much all boil down to the same thing -- religious conservatives must unconditionally surrender on abortion, gay marriage, judicial hostility towards religions, etc, and in return the Dems will give them truly Jesus-like policies on everything else!

Its garbage of course, and I was a bit surprised to see it posted on FrontPageMag. I mean, I can understand offering up constructive criticism about things the GOP needs to be wary about, and indeed there are many things that the GOP should be chided for, but you can't really take the author (Colgan) seriously; she's a Democrat and I'm sure nothing would make her happier than for the GOP to abandon popular positions on social issues.

1 posted on 10/26/2005 12:08:45 PM PDT by Aetius
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Front Page Magazine does seem to have lost their grip with this one.

I thought maybe they were quoting some liberal idiot from another source; but no, she seems to have written this specially for them.

Enough to gag a maggot.


2 posted on 10/26/2005 12:11:25 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The worry the GOP should have is they're doing about as much for conservative religious folks as liberals have, and need to do a lot more to draw strong numbers next time around. People won't vote Hillary but a lot just won't vote.


3 posted on 10/26/2005 12:16:02 PM PDT by x5452
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Show proper respect????? Good heavens, respect is earned not granted for ones belief or whatever.


4 posted on 10/26/2005 12:18:38 PM PDT by cynicom
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"Bill Clinton understood this, and that it why he was the last Democratic politician to effectively reach out to the religious community and bring them into his camp."

Hey, Aetius, you been painting the closet again with the door closed? If not then I suggest you post this hoax again on April Fools Day or under the 'comedy' section.

5 posted on 10/26/2005 12:26:19 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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"When Pope John Paul was near death, he called the President to him not to talk about abortion or gay marriage or pornography. The most important issue to the Holy Father was avoiding a war in Iraq."

Right, because the war in Iraq started in Spring 2005. /sarcasm
The Holy Father did speak - strongly- about abortion, traditional marriage, and sexual ethics, but we all know this. The religious liberal seems to forget things like the Vatican document "On Christian Voting," which explained that to vote for a politician who supports abortion when his opponent does not is to be an accomplice to murder. Voting against Catholic teaching on non-negotiables, such as abortion, euthanasia/assisted suicide, and traditional marriage places one in a state of mortal sin.


6 posted on 10/26/2005 12:59:10 PM PDT by Im4LifeandLiberty
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While, in fact, these are issues the left cares about, they are also issues of great moral importance to the religious community – the same community that Conservatives argue to have ownership of.






The fundamental moral/religious issue, as related to politics, is "What is the proper role of Government?". The fundamantal answer is that it is to wield the sword as a terror to evil doers. In short, the purpose of government is to use force to prevent evil doers from doing harm to the innocent. Out of necessity, that role is strictly limited so that the use of force does not end up as a tool of the evil doers to persecute and enslave the innocent. (As is most often the case in history) The religious community should be VERY wary of turning to the state as the arbitrator of all that is holy and good. For the most part, that is the role of Civil Society. (Families, Churches, etc.) Until the left understand this, I will have a hard time taking seriously their moral pronouncements as they relate to politics.
7 posted on 10/26/2005 1:04:18 PM PDT by rob777
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Bill Clinton understood this, and that it why he was the last Democratic politician to effectively reach out to the religious community

Oh yea, didnt he do great with them? Nobody helped organize them as opponents of socio-liberals like his wife, than his behavior did.

Imagine! A so-called moderate Democrat who got less than 15 % of the evangelical vote! Now, thats remarkable!

8 posted on 10/26/2005 1:15:48 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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