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US can call foreign groups terrorists, court says
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Posted on 10/20/2005 8:47:21 PM PDT by F14 Pilot

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1 posted on 10/20/2005 8:47:23 PM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: DoctorZIn; McGavin999; freedom44; nuconvert; sionnsar; AdmSmith; parisa; onyx; Pro-Bush; Valin; ...

it is a ridiculous waste of time that the court had to DECIDE that. All they had to do was go to the State Dept. webpage


2 posted on 10/20/2005 8:48:40 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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Whew, thank goodness for the 9th Circuit Court of Clowns. For a second there I thought we would have to strike the word terrorist from the English language.
3 posted on 10/20/2005 8:50:07 PM PDT by A message ( Being a "Progressive" means never having to be truthful to yourself)
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but...what does it mean? CAIR is supported by Hamas...why are they allowed?


4 posted on 10/20/2005 8:50:46 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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Yes it was, but be grateful the Ninth Circus got it right.


5 posted on 10/20/2005 8:51:43 PM PDT by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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Just wait until a Dim is in office and they'll designate the Heritage foundation as a terrorist organization.


6 posted on 10/20/2005 8:54:07 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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Just wait until a Dim is in office and they'll designate the Heritage foundation as a terrorist organization.

The State Department should have designated the democratic party a terrorist organization a long time ago for all of the moral support and and journalistic support they give to terrorist organizations in Iraq and all over the world.
7 posted on 10/20/2005 8:59:50 PM PDT by adorno
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To: F14 Pilot
The Constitution does not forbid Congress

The question isn't what the Constitution forbids Congress from doing. The question is what the Constitution empowers Congress to do. And the Constitution does not empower Congress to criminalize providing donations, financial backing or other aid to anyone. In fact, any such prohibition targeted at specific individials or groups is a Bill of Attainder--and is explicitly forbidded by the Constitution.

Until such time as this court's ruling is commonly understood to be diametrically opposed to Constitutional government, the US is for all intents and purposes a tyranny.

8 posted on 10/20/2005 9:04:21 PM PDT by sourcery (Givernment: The way the average voter spells "government.")
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CAIR is supported by Hamas

Source please. I know they get the majority of their funding from Saudi Arabia, but this is the first I've heard about Hamas.


9 posted on 10/20/2005 9:31:56 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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may be CAIR supports HAMAS! ;-)


10 posted on 10/20/2005 9:54:12 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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Have you read the book INFILTRATION...by Paul Sperry? CAIR has gotten money from and given money to Hamas.


11 posted on 10/20/2005 10:46:50 PM PDT by goodnesswins (DEMS....40 yrs and $$$dollars for the War on Poverty, but NOT a $$ or minute for the WAR on Terror!)
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It will not stop the millions of dollars funneled through US mosques, small denomination "wire" transfers, or even cash through US mail.


12 posted on 10/20/2005 10:58:37 PM PDT by endthematrix (Those who despise freedom and progress have condemned themselves to isolation, decline, and collapse)
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CAIR Founded by "Islamic Terrorists"?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1452674/posts
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2811

Founding members were Hamas. Funding is usually one degree of separation.
13 posted on 10/20/2005 11:07:10 PM PDT by endthematrix (Those who despise freedom and progress have condemned themselves to isolation, decline, and collapse)
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Attention: George Soros...
14 posted on 10/21/2005 2:39:13 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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The court disagreed, saying contributing money was not the same as exercising a right to free speech.

Contributing money is no longer free speech? This follows McCain/Feingold, in that by limiting contributions to political campaigns, there is no violation of free speech according to that mutant of a law either.

Our liberal courts are now abridging the First Amendment on a regular basis.

MEK contributions should have been limited under Article 3 Sec. 3: Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

All terrorist groups, and the people who support them, should be engaged this way- but why start following the Constitution now?

15 posted on 10/21/2005 3:47:50 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: goodnesswins

Thanks. I'll take a look at it.


16 posted on 10/21/2005 4:34:16 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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You're right, of course, but we are talking about the 9th Circuit.


17 posted on 10/21/2005 4:34:28 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: sourcery
And the Constitution does not empower Congress to criminalize providing donations, financial backing or other aid to anyone. In fact, any such prohibition targeted at specific individials or groups is a Bill of Attainder--and is explicitly forbidded by the Constitution.

Nice try, but very wrong. First of all, your invokation of Bill of Attainder doesn't apply to the case at hand (the logic involved would be torturous at best), and secondly, engaing in aiding and abetting the enemies of the United States is most certainly an area that Congress can regulate.

18 posted on 10/21/2005 4:46:32 AM PDT by kevkrom (I broke the dam. Seriously, I literally broke the dam. I broke the #!$@ing dam!!!)
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I'm so relieved over this. The court has spoken..../s/
19 posted on 10/21/2005 5:23:55 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: sourcery
Put down the crack pipe.

The constitution empowers that exact thing,
(Also the purview of the Executive) and empowers it in many ways.

Bill of Attainder doesn't ... LOL!

Why not just try to invoke trespass and assumsit?
20 posted on 10/21/2005 6:02:11 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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