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US can call foreign groups terrorists, court says
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Posted on 10/20/2005 8:47:21 PM PDT by F14 Pilot
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posted on
10/20/2005 8:47:23 PM PDT
by
F14 Pilot
To: DoctorZIn; McGavin999; freedom44; nuconvert; sionnsar; AdmSmith; parisa; onyx; Pro-Bush; Valin; ...
it is a ridiculous waste of time that the court had to DECIDE that. All they had to do was go to the State Dept. webpage
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posted on
10/20/2005 8:48:40 PM PDT
by
F14 Pilot
(Democracy is a process not a product)
To: F14 Pilot
Whew, thank goodness for the 9th Circuit Court of Clowns. For a second there I thought we would have to strike the word terrorist from the English language.
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posted on
10/20/2005 8:50:07 PM PDT
by
A message
( Being a "Progressive" means never having to be truthful to yourself)
To: F14 Pilot
but...what does it mean? CAIR is supported by Hamas...why are they allowed?
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posted on
10/20/2005 8:50:46 PM PDT
by
sageb1
(This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
To: F14 Pilot
Yes it was, but be grateful the Ninth Circus got it right.
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posted on
10/20/2005 8:51:43 PM PDT
by
onyx
((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
To: F14 Pilot
Just wait until a Dim is in office and they'll designate the Heritage foundation as a terrorist organization.
To: RockyMtnMan
Just wait until a Dim is in office and they'll designate the Heritage foundation as a terrorist organization.
The State Department should have designated the democratic party a terrorist organization a long time ago for all of the moral support and and journalistic support they give to terrorist organizations in Iraq and all over the world.
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posted on
10/20/2005 8:59:50 PM PDT
by
adorno
To: F14 Pilot
The Constitution does not forbid CongressThe question isn't what the Constitution forbids Congress from doing. The question is what the Constitution empowers Congress to do. And the Constitution does not empower Congress to criminalize providing donations, financial backing or other aid to anyone. In fact, any such prohibition targeted at specific individials or groups is a Bill of Attainder--and is explicitly forbidded by the Constitution.
Until such time as this court's ruling is commonly understood to be diametrically opposed to Constitutional government, the US is for all intents and purposes a tyranny.
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posted on
10/20/2005 9:04:21 PM PDT
by
sourcery
(Givernment: The way the average voter spells "government.")
To: sageb1
CAIR is supported by Hamas
Source please. I know they get the majority of their funding from Saudi Arabia, but this is the first I've heard about Hamas.
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posted on
10/20/2005 9:31:56 PM PDT
by
Valin
(The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
To: Valin
may be CAIR supports HAMAS! ;-)
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posted on
10/20/2005 9:54:12 PM PDT
by
F14 Pilot
(Democracy is a process not a product)
To: Valin
Have you read the book INFILTRATION...by Paul Sperry? CAIR has gotten money from and given money to Hamas.
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posted on
10/20/2005 10:46:50 PM PDT
by
goodnesswins
(DEMS....40 yrs and $$$dollars for the War on Poverty, but NOT a $$ or minute for the WAR on Terror!)
To: F14 Pilot
It will not stop the millions of dollars funneled through US mosques, small denomination "wire" transfers, or even cash through US mail.
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posted on
10/20/2005 10:58:37 PM PDT
by
endthematrix
(Those who despise freedom and progress have condemned themselves to isolation, decline, and collapse)
To: goodnesswins; Valin
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posted on
10/20/2005 11:07:10 PM PDT
by
endthematrix
(Those who despise freedom and progress have condemned themselves to isolation, decline, and collapse)
To: F14 Pilot
Attention: George Soros...
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posted on
10/21/2005 2:39:13 AM PDT
by
Caipirabob
(Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
To: F14 Pilot; onyx; adorno; RockyMtnMan; A message; sageb1; sourcery; Valin; endthematrix; ...
The court disagreed, saying contributing money was not the same as exercising a right to free speech.Contributing money is no longer free speech? This follows McCain/Feingold, in that by limiting contributions to political campaigns, there is no violation of free speech according to that mutant of a law either.
Our liberal courts are now abridging the First Amendment on a regular basis.
MEK contributions should have been limited under Article 3 Sec. 3: Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
All terrorist groups, and the people who support them, should be engaged this way- but why start following the Constitution now?
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posted on
10/21/2005 3:47:50 AM PDT
by
ovrtaxt
(You nonconformists are all the same.)
To: goodnesswins
Thanks. I'll take a look at it.
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posted on
10/21/2005 4:34:16 AM PDT
by
Valin
(The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
To: F14 Pilot
You're right, of course, but we are talking about the 9th Circuit.
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posted on
10/21/2005 4:34:28 AM PDT
by
GVnana
To: sourcery
And the Constitution does not empower Congress to criminalize providing donations, financial backing or other aid to anyone. In fact, any such prohibition targeted at specific individials or groups is a Bill of Attainder--and is explicitly forbidded by the Constitution. Nice try, but very wrong. First of all, your invokation of Bill of Attainder doesn't apply to the case at hand (the logic involved would be torturous at best), and secondly, engaing in aiding and abetting the enemies of the United States is most certainly an area that Congress can regulate.
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posted on
10/21/2005 4:46:32 AM PDT
by
kevkrom
(I broke the dam. Seriously, I literally broke the dam. I broke the #!$@ing dam!!!)
To: F14 Pilot
I'm so relieved over this. The court has spoken..../s/
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posted on
10/21/2005 5:23:55 AM PDT
by
TADSLOS
(Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
To: sourcery
Put down the crack pipe.
The constitution empowers that exact thing,
(Also the purview of the Executive) and empowers it in many ways.
Bill of Attainder doesn't ... LOL!
Why not just try to invoke trespass and assumsit?
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posted on
10/21/2005 6:02:11 AM PDT
by
bill1952
("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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