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To: lizol
I have just been to your "about" page and see that you are Polish and with a special interest in eastern Europe. That being the case, I realize my words struck you as harsh and hurtful and for that I apologize.

I don't know if you live in Poland or the United States, but if the former you should realize that the United States has never really been a part of "chr*stendom" as you understand it. It was settled by Protestant Biblical Fundamentalists to whom the world of the Bible was much more important than the post-Biblical chr*stian world. That is why American Fundamentalists have the nostalgia for restored Israel that European chr*stians feel for a restored medieval Holy Roman Empire, and they tend to (alone in the chr*stian world) even support the rebuilding of the Temple and the reinstitution of sacrifices (which European chr*stians would probably define as "the reign of antichrist"). That's what the chr*stian church gets for cutting off the Biblical canon so early!

Unfortunately, this puts American Fundamentalists in a sort of theological "no man's land," neither Jewish nor traditionally chr*stian, and they are despised and distrusted by both sides. If they knew more about chr*stian history and theology they would probably (as I have done) give up chr*stianity altogether for Noachism (G-d's covenant with non-Jewish mankind according to Judaism), but they cannot pry their minds away from the only worldview they have ever known, unnatural and mixed up as it is.

As a Noachide myself I don't believe in permanently reestablishing Jewish communities in the exile but in the complete ingathering of all Jews to 'Eretz Yisra'el, the rebuilding of the Temple, and the rule of Mashiach HaMelekh (King Messiah) and the Kingdom of G-d on earth.

I hope that by explaining my perspective you can understand my otherwise harsh words about eastern Europe.

Again, my apologies for being unfeeling and hurtful to you.

13 posted on 10/17/2005 11:28:38 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Bayom hahu' yihyeh HaShem 'echad ushemo 'echad.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
That is why American Fundamentalists have the nostalgia for restored Israel ... and they tend to (alone in the chr*stian world) even support the rebuilding of the Temple and the reinstitution of sacrifices (which European chr*stians would probably define as "the reign of antichrist").

I would think that an ex-Christian fundamentalist such as yourself would know that Christian fundamentalists support the rebuilding of the Temple precisely because they see a literal temple as a necessary prerequisite for the second coming of Christ -- and that, in part, precisely because the anti-Christ first needs a temple to literally sit in and "show himself to be God," as St. Paul writes.

16 posted on 10/17/2005 11:38:16 AM PDT by Campion (Truth is not determined by a majority vote -- Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
OK, now my turn to apologize, as I'd posted my #14 before I read your #13.

But anyway - I don't get why you think, that my part of Europe feels some special hatred for the Jewish people.

And some other - "technical" - questions:

1) what are those stars, like "chr*stian" for?

2) what means the reinstitution of sacrifices (which European chr*stians would probably define as "the reign of antichrist") - sorry, this is due to my poor English.
17 posted on 10/17/2005 11:41:47 AM PDT by lizol
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