High court says execute Crips founder (Stanley "Tookie" Williams)

AP - San Diego Union Tribune ^ | Oct 11, 2005 | David Kravets

[nopardons]

While in prison, Tookie raped others and he went after prison guards with shivs.

Many times, in order to catch and convict criminals, you have to rely of testimony of some very unsavory characters.

If you demand that there must be 100%, completely undeniable proof for every crime, you aren't ever going to convict most people who commit crimes of any kind.

Are you sure that you're on the right forum for you ? That bleeding heart is making a mess on the floor.

[nopardons]

It was out of sync when it came to OJ.

In every trial, lawyers are allowed to dismiss jurors. Why don't you know this?

Yes, you are supposed to be tried in front of a jury of your peers, so do you want gang members to only have jurors who are also gang members?

[Skywalk]

Hard to claim 'redemption' when he denies committing the murders.

Sounds like Mumia who won't actually say he's innocent and did not kill Daniel Faulkner, he just lets his worshippers invent his excuses and alibis for him.

At least Williams denies it. But he's still guilty and the only apology he's made is for damage he did to 'his race.' My guess is, he didn't care if he killed a white guy and some Asians. He still doesn't.

[Rastus]

It will count the day internet messages bring back the dead.

[Rastus]

The California Criminal Justice Legal Foundation is urging against clemency, and no California governor has granted clemency to a condemned murderer since Ronald Reagan spared the life of a severely brain-damaged killer in 1967.

That has to sting a bit. "Comrades! Too long have we sought clemency in vain! Why, the last governor who granted clemency was . . . well, it was long ago!"

[Cincinna]

"They gave a Nobel Peace Prize to Yassir Arafat. He deserved to fry, too."

I have the feeling that he is frying for all eternity where he is now.

[Ostlandr]

Thanks. I guess I better move the Bartlett's to the computer desk next to the Bible and the Latin dictionary.

[Tymesup]

"In every trial, lawyers are allowed to dismiss jurors. Why don't you know this?"

My post argued that lawyers should not be allowed to dismiss jurors.

"Yes, you are supposed to be tried in front of a jury of your peers, so do you want gang members to only have jurors who are also gang members?"

Since we are all supposed to be created equal, I contend that any citizen is a peer of the defendant.

[nopardons]

The word "prospective" should have appeared; but I suspect that it wasn't because the writer didn't think that someone like you, would nitpick it.

Now, since you obviously don't know anything at all about trials, juries, or voir dir ( sp? ), let me explain it to you.......

There is a thingy called voir dir ( which I'm really not certain how to spell ), which gives lawyers from BOTH SIDES, the right to dismiss ANY future juror, on their upcoming case. The reasoning behind this, is so that they can weed out people who have biases and/or something about them, which would prejudice their view of the case.

Sometimes, once juries are seated, one or more of the jurors express something or acts on such a way ( usually going alone to the scene of the crime, or doing something else that is ILLEGAL ) that once found out, they should and often do get them kicked off the jury. THAT'S WHY THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE JURORS PICKED !

Your post was dead wrong and uneducated. You really need to learn NOT to talk about things you neither know or understand anything at all about, which your last sentence proves beyond a shadow of a doubt. We aren't all "equal" at all.