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Fate Of Soledad Cross Questioned
10 News ^ | October 7, 2005 | Unknown

Posted on 10/08/2005 10:03:30 AM PDT by Jay777

SAN DIEGO -- A Superior Court judge has ruled that a proposed transfer of the Mount Soledad Cross to the federal government is unconstitutional.

Judge Patricia Cowett found Friday that maintenance of the cross is an "unconstitutional preference of religion."

Cowett also said transferring ownership of the 43-foot cross and surrounding property to the federal government is an "unconstitutional aid to religion."

"The court hereby finds the ordinance placing Proposition A on the ballot and Proposition A unconstitutional, and therefore invalid and unenforceable. Maintenance of this Latin Cross as it is on the property in question, is found to be an unconstitutional preference of religion in violation of Artical I, Section 4, of the California Constitution, and the transfer of the memorial with the cross as its centerpiece to the federal government to save the cross as it is, where it is, is an unconstitutional aid to religion in violation of Artical XVI, Section 5, of the California Constitution."

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Mt. Soledad Cross Ruled Unconstitutional By Judge. When did our nation stop being ruled by the people, and start being ruled by judges?
1 posted on 10/08/2005 10:03:30 AM PDT by Jay777
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To: Jay777

What about that big beehive of a mosque up on the hill? Is that OK?


2 posted on 10/08/2005 10:04:10 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Nothing fills the void of a passing hurricane better than government)
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3 posted on 10/08/2005 10:05:26 AM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777

What's with the name "Soledad" anyway? ... first it's the name of a reporterette and now it 's the name of a mount... what next, Soledad car wax?


4 posted on 10/08/2005 10:07:08 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (The search for someone to blame is always successful. - Robert Half)
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How you can help us fight the secularization of America
5 posted on 10/08/2005 10:07:59 AM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777

I am waiting for some judge to find the constitution un-constitutional.


6 posted on 10/08/2005 10:08:17 AM PDT by pikachu (You're unique and special -- just like everyone else.)
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7 posted on 10/08/2005 10:09:03 AM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Pride in the USA
I hope they will appeal the decision...

This ruling is a slap in the face to both veterans and voters-seventy-five percent of whom voted to keep Mount Soledad as it is, where it is. This smacks of the worst kind of judicial activism. Judge Cowett already attempted to undermine the preservation of this sacred symbol by forcing a minimum 2/3 supermajority for passage just a few days before the July 26 election

As we predicted, the people rose to the occasion and overwhelmingly approved Proposition A. Now, Judge Cowett wants to change the rules after the game has already been played.

8 posted on 10/08/2005 10:13:31 AM PDT by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: Jay777
Exactly! Public cemeteries have all kinds of religious symbols. We maintain them?? or just atheists' graves.

There is some mention of problems occurring because of the "Last Word" status of the Supreme Court. I'd say this might reflect that dissertation.

9 posted on 10/08/2005 10:15:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Jay777
The County draws its name from San Diego de Alcala, a designation credited to Spaniard Don Sebastian Vizcaino who sailed into what is now San Diego Bay on November 12, 1603, and renamed it in honor of his flagship and, it is said, his favorite saint. The site was actually discovered 61 years earlier by Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo who had named it San Miguel.

Named after a saint?! OMG! Quick, let's rename it Clintonville. Can't have a city named after a saint.

10 posted on 10/08/2005 10:17:09 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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"I am waiting for some judge to find the constitution un-constitutional."

ROTFLMAO!

I thought that was what the SCOTUS did every time they hand down a ruling... Regards,

11 posted on 10/08/2005 10:40:35 AM PDT by AMERIKA (<-----Click here for "What is Racism")
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To: Jay777
According to this line of "judicial" reasoning, Tumacácori National Historical Park South of Tucson, Arizona, must tear down the Mission it is established to protect. Most of the historic park is an effort to preserve a blatantly Christian (Latin) structure and Native American Christian art associated and within the mission. I am sure there are countless other such "violations" of the Constitution but this is a place to start. The vacant land could be sold and used for a Mosque as they value locations formerly occupied by other religions..
12 posted on 10/08/2005 10:43:53 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Jay777
I hate to disagree with this Commie skank but I can't find ANYTHING in my copy of the U.S. Constitution that talks about "unconstitutional preference of religion" or "unconstitutional aid to religion."

It appears she's letting her imagination get out of control.

13 posted on 10/08/2005 11:08:35 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Search keyword: 09-11-01.)
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To: Jay777
Judge Patricia Kim Cowett, activist judge, strikes down Prop. A. ignoring 76% of San Diego voters. A perfect example of legislating from the bench. Activist judges are alive and well in San Diego.

Judge Cowett "went so far as to [say that] calling the monument a war memorial is a sham designed to achieve the predominantly sectarian purpose of promoting Christianity as opposed to honoring our fallen veterans."

Charles LiMandri, West Coast regional director of the Thomas More Law Center states, "We believe she telegraphed her hostility towards the cross when she required a two-thirds vote on Prop. A to prevail, and then would not relinquish jurisdiction over the constitutionality issue to the federal court that first retained jurisdiction of that issue."

Myke Shelby, a former mayoral candidate who submitted the petition to force the vote on Proposition A, reacted with shock yesterday. He said he is likely to ask an attorney to explore his options about participating in the Oct. 3 hearing. "We tried to do everything according to the rules, but they keep on changing the rules," he said. "This is like moving the goal post."

Her bias is apparent.

14 posted on 10/08/2005 11:10:13 AM PDT by BigFinn
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To: lonevoice

Judge Cowett appears to be anti-American.


15 posted on 10/08/2005 11:19:33 AM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again? How'bout a double sarcasm for this one)
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16 posted on 10/08/2005 11:27:50 AM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: pikachu

They don't need to. Liberals made up a "Living" Constitution that's so much nicer than that pro-gun, pro-state-rights old one.


17 posted on 10/08/2005 11:47:28 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: lonevoice

When and how do the people get to force these activist judges to step down? Why are they ever given a pass, no matter how far from the Constitution they stray? When do they have to answer to the people and a higher authority?


18 posted on 10/08/2005 11:58:44 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: Jay777

It is time Governors and POTUS started saying "try to enforce it" and the legislatures and congress back them up. If the congress and the legislatures back them up, who will carryout their dictatorial rulings?


19 posted on 10/08/2005 12:50:57 PM PDT by Wuli
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The Judg enotes that a Cross has stood on that ground ,in relation to the War Memorial , since 1913. And when the
godless Reprobate criminals have destroyed it it has been
replaced. th eLatest replacement coming in 1954 (permisison granted by the City in 1952.It would be unreasonable to believe there were no lawyers involved in any of the many
transactions to discover that such a cross would be a violation of Article 1 Sect.4 and Article XVI Sect.5 .So clearly we are told we must believe California had no legal
authority that understood the constitution from 1913 til
present day- or the current crop of Judges and such are flaming godless /lawless idiots.(I prefer to believe the latter as true. Perhaps someone from California can explain ifthe California Constitution itself has been expunged of any religious significance -or the does the State Constitution as read by Judge Patricia Yim Cowett declare
itself to be unconstitutional. It is my understanding that every State Constitution in some manner does acknowledge God
according to Yim Cowett an unconstitutional act?Also I wonder (having read her strained logic) How she can apply
a current and errant understanding of the Constitution to
a Cross that has stood in direct relation to the War Memorial since 1913? Seems a structure deemed acceptable in 1913,and 1923,and 1952, and 1954 and apparantly accepted every year until the last few ought not be declared "unconstitutional" today.Were I living under her
jurisdiction I would expect fire to fall from the sky as
we are told happened when Sodom and Gomorrah defied God.
Perhaps He might find "fault" with California and I don't think a rowboat would help if God wearies of the godless
defiance in the California Courts.


20 posted on 10/08/2005 2:49:11 PM PDT by StonyBurk
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