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Officials Call 'Speak English' Sign Discriminatory
NBC 4 Columbus ^ | October 7, 2005

Posted on 10/07/2005 11:00:24 AM PDT by flutters

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- The Ohio Civil Rights Commission has ruled a sign in the window of a southwest Ohio tavern declaring, "For Service, Speak English," is discriminatory.

The panel said Thursday the Pleasure Inn on U.S. 42 in Mason, northeast of Cincinnati, violated the state civil rights law.

Commission spokeswoman Christia Alou White said the tavern could be ordered to remove the sign, to pay for advertisements about nondiscrimination, and its staff could be ordered to undergo diversity training or cultural sensitivity training.

The business has 10 days to ask the commission to reconsider. The tavern owner's lawyer declined to comment.

Ohio law says it is unlawful for any proprietor of a place of public accommodation to deny the full enjoyment of the accommodations based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability, age or ancestry.

The commission said the English-only rule serves no purpose other than to discriminate against non-English speaking individuals.

Housing Opportunities Made Equal, a Mount Auburn-based agency that handles fair-housing issues for eight counties, including Warren, where the tavern is located, filed a complaint with the commission in July after callers complained.

"I really think it's an affront to Hispanic families in the area, and I'm glad that the commission agreed that it's illegal discrimination," said Elizabeth Brown, HOME's executive director.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: pc; speakenglish
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To: flutters

If someone can't speak English, it's a safe bet that they can't read it either, so how is it discriminatory?


61 posted on 10/07/2005 11:48:49 AM PDT by Marauder (The height of hypocrisy: Members of congress upset because someone lied to them.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

I have to agree.


62 posted on 10/07/2005 11:50:47 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: MineralMan
I'm not seeing it in the article.

The whole idea of "civil rights commissions" made up of unelected bureaucrats, issuing decrees against citizens, is uncomfortably Soviet.

63 posted on 10/07/2005 11:52:41 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: flutters
... race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability, age or ancestry.

The Ohio Civil Rights Commission decided to throw in "language" just for grins and giggles.

ARGGGG!!!! THESE PEOPLE MAKE ME CRAZY!!!

64 posted on 10/07/2005 11:53:53 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: tfecw

Do we all get to vote on the founding members of the shirtlessapiens race? ;-P


65 posted on 10/07/2005 11:54:07 AM PDT by MortMan (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: Bahbah

I have this same sign in my office.


66 posted on 10/07/2005 12:06:06 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Troubled by NOLA looting ? You ain't seen nothing yet.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Bless your heart. Good for you.


67 posted on 10/07/2005 12:06:46 PM PDT by Bahbah (Member of the Water Bucket Brigade)
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To: flutters

As we bend over once again...


68 posted on 10/07/2005 12:10:26 PM PDT by hershey
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To: absolootezer0; Eric in the Ozarks
When I owned and operated a Thai Restaurant I'd get a few customers who were Thai.
They've usually give me, the white boy, their order in English.
I'd take the order to the cooks and verbalize it in Thai.
The Thai cooks would repeat the order in English.
The non-Asian customers got a kick out of the reversal.
69 posted on 10/07/2005 12:11:20 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Osama Bin Laden Al Khanzier)
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To: ASA Vet

My office is in my home.


70 posted on 10/07/2005 12:14:21 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Troubled by NOLA looting ? You ain't seen nothing yet.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
My office is in my home.

Do you have a sign posted directing yourself to speak English?

71 posted on 10/07/2005 12:17:31 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Osama Bin Laden Al Khanzier)
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To: flutters

How the hell can a commission order employees to undergo re-education (to use the Communist term, which seems highly appropriate).

If the Government wants my butt somewhere they better get a warrent, arrest me and give me my due process rights to a trial by jury.

Fascist leftists are at it again.


72 posted on 10/07/2005 12:19:07 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: mlc9852
Is the tavern a private business or a government entity?

It is private, but private property rights mean nothing to leftists.

73 posted on 10/07/2005 12:22:07 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: flutters

Actually, all the tavern has to do when someone tries to order in a non-english language is stare at the person, shrug their shoulders and keep saying "I don't understand". Maybe the patron might make some effort to learn minimal English before returning. Just a thought.


74 posted on 10/07/2005 12:23:39 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: absolootezer0
been there, done that. the family thought it was funny when i brought them out their food. what i didn't understand was, why the HECK would a mexican family want to eat at chi-chis?,

LOL!

What kind of food did you bring out? You see, when I meant their order would be wrong every time, I had in mind something along the lines of teaching a lesson such as:

"Oh! you did not want scrambled eggs with green peas, Limburger and chopped abalone over rye toast with clam sauce? Thats what it sounded like to me!! Then, if they re-order..come up with something else "special".

Nobody could PROVE the order was not misunderstood...them speaking a foreign language and all..

75 posted on 10/07/2005 12:24:12 PM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: Iron Matron

"If it were my tavern, I'd let them speak spanish allright..but their order would be wrong..every time."

Kinda like when I go to fast food places!


76 posted on 10/07/2005 12:25:21 PM PDT by AMERIKA (Support America, buy a Harley aka HOG!)
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To: Iron Matron

I hope Americans aren't treated like that in other countries.


77 posted on 10/07/2005 12:25:54 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: flutters
The commission said the English-only rule serves no purpose other than to discriminate against non-English speaking individuals.

Interesting extrapolation since a sign that reads, "For Service, Speak English" does not discriminate based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability, age or ancestry.

By this same reasoning, I can file a discrimination suit against any company that uses voicemail menus that begin with the phrase, "For English, press 1".

78 posted on 10/07/2005 12:29:08 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you decide to kick the tiger in the ass...you'd better be prepared to deal with the teeth.)
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To: teenyelliott
That is too funny. You should call the tavern owner and suggest this. Hahahaha!

Not a bad idea..if it were a local tavern, someone I knew, I might suggest it, but some business owners are too scared to follow up with it, and if he did, and served something truly vile..I could wind up in a lawsuit..

79 posted on 10/07/2005 12:29:17 PM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: flutters
The commission said the English-only rule serves no purpose other than to discriminate against non-English speaking individuals.

Interesting extrapolation since a sign that reads, "For Service, Speak English" does not discriminate based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability, age or ancestry.

By this same reasoning, I can file a discrimination suit against any company that uses voicemail menus that begin with the phrase, "For English, press 1".

80 posted on 10/07/2005 12:29:42 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you decide to kick the tiger in the ass...you'd better be prepared to deal with the teeth.)
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