Posted on 09/30/2005 2:09:51 PM PDT by truthfinder9
If you can observe it any which way then it is indeed science. We are talking about all nature here not humans.
One thing for sure, the real Patrick Henry chose death. If only we could count on those who take his guise to do likewise, the gene pool would be so much better off!
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darwin was writing about biology, not about the existence of the universe.
flip a coin, you can get head or tails. that doesn't disprove that God exists, or that He has a plan, or that He created the universe and the orignial materials out of which the coin was made.
Calm down. You're getting lysdexic.
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Would you be okay with government money funding ID research?
>This time the setting is Iowa State University. One hundred
>twenty professors there have signed a statement denouncing
>the study of intelligent design and calling on all faculty
>members to reject it.
God making heaven and earth in 7 days was foolishness to me also back when I was an atheist...no more.
>the reasoning of the Iowa State professors is, frankly,
>some of the weakest Ive ever seen.
Convincing the world that my lie was truth was also a pursuit of mine back in the day.
Praise Christ!
And if it can't be repeated, how do you know it's true?
What form would that research take?
"What? Back up the turnip truck and explain that one. I missed something."
Please explain the nature of the "pocket" of reverse entropy that caused inanimate material to "randomly" organize in a complex fashion, thus leading to life.
The turnip truck reference is hilarious by the way! I feel like such a redneck. Good one! You so damn funny, I tell you what.
I don't care if they teach ID.
I want them to teach there are other theories other than Darwinian evolution.
I want them lit on fire so these kids go forward looking to see the TRUTH, whatever it is.
It's all agenda-driven speculation. I've got a bunch of PhD's & a scholarly journal who say it never happened. Teach Our Controversy!
(Hey, that kind of logic works for the Discovery Institute.)
It's been shown time and again that various vegetables come from the same source.
York Dispatch: Meetings Were Like Revivals
With this kind of testimony showing the pervasive prosyletising mindset of the Dover school board, there's no way they're going to win this.
Why does that matter?
Right Wing Professor: So there's no proof one exists, and in fact many of us believe it's impossible, but you want us to work on it anyway? I have no problem with anyone pursuing it, on their own time.
I think that's all that is needed: let others pursue it. You can sit back and say "unproven" and I will be right with you. But instead of beating on ID as unprovable and making personal attacks let the ID adherents try to make their case.
me: I believe that a true study of designed vs. undesigned objects would show that simplicity is an aspect of design and that unnecessary complexity is an aspect of evolved objects.
Right Wing Professor: Then I presume it's settled that we're the result of evolution, because the human genome has the biggest collection of garbage you've ever seen.
That's the point. Not settled. Still in doubt. Just because I or you or any number of scientists think it will not show what the ID adherents expect it to show is no reason to reject it.
My biggest disagreement with the anti-ID crowd is their refusal to believe the possibility of measuring the likelihood of something being designed. I strongly suspect that a measure similar to entropy can be used.
So you don't believe the holocaust happened? I'm sure it did. I've met people who were in the concentration camps. There is irrefutable proof. Not so with evolution.
Well, yes, but you see - they are still vegetables.
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