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Bill Bennett Responds to Critics over Black Abortion (Sen Byrd mention remarkable)
newsmax.com ^ | Friday, Sept. 30, 2005 12:07 a.m. EDT

Posted on 09/30/2005 4:47:39 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

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To: Petronski; All

My Post was in response to an item Petronski submitted from Bennett, and was a response to Bennett's comments and other comments in the discussion, NOT ANYTHING Petronski said.

I apologize for the implication my post made by referencing Petronski, and wanted to make it clear that the reference to Petronski had nothing to do with Petronski.


81 posted on 09/30/2005 8:20:35 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

LOL. Kinda thorough with the clarification, eh?


Thanks. Be well. ;O)


82 posted on 09/30/2005 8:22:41 AM PDT by Petronski (I thank God for Cyborg.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Still waiting for an apology from Charlie "Bush is bull connor" Rangel and Al "Tawana Brawley, White interloper" Sharpton.


83 posted on 09/30/2005 8:25:19 AM PDT by Rosemont
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To: Wolfie
Bennett's toast.

Odds are you're correct.

Oops, I thought I was in the casino with Bill.

84 posted on 09/30/2005 8:25:49 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: colonialhk
"Does anyone have the stats on race and crime in America? I will bet he has a statistical base for the hypothetical but from the PC standpoint he is toast."

The figure that has been posted numerous times on the FR is Black males = ~~6% of the USA population but account for ~~50% of crimes. Now, I have no idea as to what type of crimes comprise that number.

I cannot speak to the accuracy of those numbers but I think any sane person would say it is NOT 6% of all crimes but a number significantly higher than their percentage in the population.

85 posted on 09/30/2005 8:33:39 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: Rosemont
Still waiting for an apology from Charlie "Bush is bull connor" Rangel and Al "Tawana Brawley, White interloper" Sharpton.

Come on now! You know it doesn't count as racism when it comes out of a black persons mouth. (unless that person is conservative, or Bill Cosby)
86 posted on 09/30/2005 8:36:27 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Dutchgirl
"His error is not racism...it is assuming that the general public recognises biting satire when they hear it."

Don't you think you're being a little NIGGARDLY with your characterization of the public's satirical awareness?
87 posted on 09/30/2005 8:41:22 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: Wolfie

The sad truth is that the majority of abortions are performed on black females. There is a new theory out there that the national crime rate is down because of all of the black abortions performed 20 years ago. Have you heard that one? Check out orneryamerican.com. If only marginally true, that would irritate the RATs even more.


88 posted on 09/30/2005 8:49:52 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: All

Actually two very sinister things are happening here.

1. The left attacks people who make assertions which are undeniably true, which are supported by irrefutable evidence and which they themselves have in the past implied to be true. The left is saying, if some people are offended by an assertion, it is immaterial if the assertion is factually true. It is truly dishonest, disgusting and demagogic, particularly when not one of them would ever actually assert the opposite to be the case. Harry Reid would never assert that Black’s have an equal or lower crime rate than whites.

On a deeper level this is directly related to Rather’s ‘False but Accurate’.

In “Left Think” any assertion or document is “True” if it supports their world view/ideology, conversely no matter how well documented or well reasoned or well sourced an assertion or document is, if it contradicts our world view/ideology it is false.
Essentially When the normal person, the normal intellectual the normal political commentator claims that something is true, they mean something entirely different from when a leftist says something is true.
From the leftist perspective false accusations of rape are ok; because they raise the community’s awareness of the problem of sexual assault.


2. The deliberate and blatant misquoting or manipulation of peoples remarks.

It is not just the quoting out of context, it is the intentional editing out of the context a remark appears in.

John Ashcroft said; “ Some people say Bill Clinton was a good President, but I disagree.” Becomes > John Ashcroft admits Bill Clinton was a good President.

or, If you were to say- Just because someone is evil does not mean everything they believe is false, Hitler believed the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. Is reported as you saying Hitler was right about many things.

I think it is just a matter of time before we get

“I do not believe it would be wise to withdraw immediately from Iraq”
becomes
“….. it would be wise to withdraw immediately from Iraq”


89 posted on 09/30/2005 9:27:10 AM PDT by Jonah Johansen ("Comming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I don't think Blacks or Whites are genetically pre-disposed to crime any more than I think you were pre-disposed to putting your foot in your mouth. It takes training to become a complete crook, just like it takes training to know when to write something that shows one's disposition. If you had listened, or even read, Bennett's statement on this, and not just the "snippets" given in the MSM, then you would know damned good and well what he said, and exactly what he meant when saying it.I cannot understand people running into the closet when the dims come calling, I'm not an apoligist for Bill Bennett, nor do I think he has a racist bone in his body. I suggest you read his books and listen to what he says, maybe you won't be so quick to pull the trigger on him. I hope he keeps letting it all hang out, as I think we need it as a country!


90 posted on 09/30/2005 9:45:16 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

'Fixing' all male babies at birth would go a lot further and is a simpler operation.

Bill Bennet was making the opposite point ... that IF you want to go the 'ends justify the means' approach, there are lots of ways to accomplish a social objective.

He may as well have said abort all babies of low income parents, or all male babies of low income parents ... etc etc.

It makes me angry that he is being attacked for these statements. It is pro-'choice' people who bring up the "abortion has lowered the crime rate" argument in discussions about abortion. I have been in hundreds of abortion discussions and pro-'choice' people never fail to make this point ... as if the ends justify the means.

Bill Bennet was making an offensive claim in order to highlight the offensive defense of abortion many pro-'choice' people make.


91 posted on 09/30/2005 9:51:45 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: geezerwheezer

I saw the Hannity and Colmes. I saw the replay of his remarks. I saw his "explanation".

His statement was REASONABLY interpretable as being that being black predisposed you to crime.

He should have realised that, and made it clear through an apology that he did not mean that.

If you to pick the single characteristic of an infant that was most likely to predict a life of crime, what would it be? If you made a list of characteristics in order of predictive capability, how far down would "skin color" be?

If he had used the example of "aborting babies of poor people" he would have been insensitive but accurate.


92 posted on 09/30/2005 10:06:23 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I think he was sensitive to his remarks and I think he was accurate to boot! Problem is, folks such as yourself refuse to keep things in the context of the conversation and look for any excuse, flimsy or not, to throw the proverbial brickbats. I've said things that later I have regretted saying, as I'm sure we all have, but this ain't one of 'em, and Bennett owes no-one an apology. In fact, he is owed an apology from Reid, Jackson, Kennedy, et.al.! What better enemies can he ask for; a thief, a hustler, and a killer...wow...I'm believin' everything those angels are tellin' me-NOT !!!


93 posted on 09/30/2005 11:06:30 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: InvisibleChurch; June Cleaver; OldFriend; airborne; jch10; FearlessFreep
Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean, who suggested last year that most blacks hold menial jobs, called Bennett's comments "hateful" and "inflammatory" - and called on him to apologize.

OK Howard, Mr. Bennett will apologize, but only to the hotel staff.

;-)

94 posted on 09/30/2005 9:51:17 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Doctor, my eyes... tell me what is wrong...was I unwise to leave them open for so long)
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To: InvisibleChurch
"I'll not take instruction from Teddy Kennedy. A young woman likely drowned because of his negligence . . . . He should make no judgments at all about other people. He shouldn't be in the Senate."

FINALLY someone said this!

95 posted on 09/30/2005 9:52:35 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: Wolfie
He is toast because Republicans are not allowed the constitutional right of free speech right Wolfie?
96 posted on 09/30/2005 9:53:19 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: Wurlitzer
The FBI Uniform Crime Reports for 2003 breakdown by race show blacks being arrested for 48% of homicides, 54% for robberies, and 33% of rapes (while being 12% of the population)
97 posted on 09/30/2005 10:01:57 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: InvisibleChurch
Good punch back by Bennett! I'm not gonna take crap about racism from a Senator who in a drunken moment left a young woman to drown to death one night in his own car over 36 years ago. Uncle Ted's libel of a good man is even more outrageous than his drowning of Mary Jo Kopechne. William Benett takes responsibility for his own behavior - its instructive Kennedy still behaves like a drunken lout.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
98 posted on 09/30/2005 10:02:31 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: InvisibleChurch

99 posted on 10/04/2005 10:18:17 PM PDT by Dan Lacey
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