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Israeli-EU collaboration produces 'green' hydrogen fuel with solar energy
http://www.standwithus.com/news_post.asp?NPI=457 ^ | 9/11/05 | David Brinn

Posted on 09/29/2005 7:57:42 PM PDT by BlueSky194

The Weizmann Institute's Canadian Institute for the Energies and Applied Research, one of the most sophisticated solar research facilities in the world, which has a solar tower, a field of 64 mirrors and unique beam-down optics.

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Weizmann Institute of Science

Hydrogen, the most plentiful element in the universe, has long been viewed as an attractive candidate for becoming the pollution-free fuel of the future.

However, nearly all hydrogen fuel used today is produced by means of expensive processes that require combustion of polluting fossil fuels. Moreover, storing and transporting hydrogen is extremely difficult and costly.

In a breakthrough that has dramatic implications for energy use worldwide, Israeli researchers have shown that hydrogen fuel can be produced with the help of sunlight - propelling the dream forward of using hydrogen as a 'green' fuel.

The innovative solar technology developed at Weizmann Institute of Science that may offer an environmentally sound solution to the production of hydrogen fuel, has been successfully tested on a large scale, and also promises to facilitate the storage and transportation of hydrogen.

The chemical process behind the technology was originally developed at Weizmann on a scale of several kilowatts. It was then scaled up to 300 kilowatts in collaboration with scientists from the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, Paul Scherrer Institute in Switzerland, Institut de Science et de Genie des Materiaux et Procedes - Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique in France, and the ScanArc Plasma Technologies AB in Sweden. The project is supported by the European Union's FP5 program.

Results of the experiments were presented last month at the 2005 Solar World Congress of the International Solar Energy Society (ISES) in Orlando, Florida.

"After many years of basic research, we are pleased to see the scientific principles developed at the Institute validated by technological development," said Prof. Jacob Karni, Head of the Center for Energy Research at Weizmann.

"Our presentation was very well attended and received. Our colleagues and people involved in this field know our work very well," added Weizmann project leader Michael Epstein in an interview with ISRAEL21c.

The new solar technology developed by the Israelis and their European colleagues creates an easily storable intermediate energy source form from metal ore, such as zinc oxide.

Using Weizmann facilities, the team used sunlight to heat a metal ore, such as zinc oxide, to about 1,200° Celsius in the presence of charcoal. This split the ore, releasing oxygen and creating gaseous zinc, which was then condensed to a powder. The powder was later allowed to react with water, yielding hydrogen to be used as fuel and zinc oxide, which was recycled in the solar plant.

In recent experiments, the 300-kilowatt installation produced 45 kilograms of zinc powder from zinc oxide in one hour, exceeding projected goals.

The process generates no pollution, and the resultant zinc can be easily stored and transported, and converted to hydrogen on demand. In addition, the zinc can be used directly, for example, in zinc-air batteries, which serve as efficient converters of chemical to electrical energy. Thus, the method offers a way of storing solar energy in chemical form and releasing it as needed.

"Now we can store and transport solar energy efficiently as zinc, and then convert it to hydrogen whenever we need it," team member Christian Wieckert of the Paul Scherrer Institute in Switzerland told New Scientist.

The concept of splitting metal ores with the help of sunlight has been under development over the course of several years at the Weizmann Institute's Canadian Institute for the Energies and Applied Research, one of the most sophisticated solar research facilities in the world, which has a solar tower, a field of 64 mirrors and unique beam-down optics.

"We get 2000 times the normal sunlight concentration," said Wieckert.

Weizmann scientists are currently investigating metal ores other than zinc oxide, as well as additional materials that may be used for efficient conversion of sunlight into storable energy.

"Over the next few months, there'll be a continuation of tests to cover different process parameters, and the project will finish at the end of this year. We'll have a final meeting with all the partners in the project," said project leader Epstein. "The duration of the project was four years, but we're actually planning to submit a continuation proposal to the next EU Commission."

Reaction to the Weizmann breakthrough has been enthusiastic to say the least.

"The Israelis may save the world if this technique for producing hydrogen pans out and proves practical," wrote Professor Juan Cole of the University of Michigan on his influential blog Informed Comment.

According to Epstein, the success of the recent experiments brings the approach closer to industrial use.

"We still need to demonstrate the whole process on a larger scale before it could go to commercialization. That can't be done by us, we've done the largest tests we can with our means. But hopefully, industrialists will take it over and demonstrate it if can work one magnitude larger. If that is shown, and the economics are viable, then I'm sure it could be commercialized," he said, adding that he foresaw the building of a commercial plant in six to eight years.


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1 posted on 09/29/2005 7:57:49 PM PDT by BlueSky194
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To: BlueSky194

President Bush was the first U.S. president to approve funding for hydrogen cell vehicles and announced it during his 2003 State of the Union address.

Just wanted to mention that since libs always seem to "forget" that when they bash Bush about the environment.


2 posted on 09/29/2005 8:02:02 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: BlueSky194
"The Israelis may save the world if this technique for producing hydrogen pans out and proves practical,"

Worthy of repeating!
3 posted on 09/29/2005 8:08:02 PM PDT by so_real ("The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real
"The Israelis may save the world if this technique for producing hydrogen pans out and proves practical," wrote Professor Juan Cole of the University of Michigan"

I sure hope this pans out, but be aware that "Professor Juan Cole" is a ludicrous source for this journalist to cite for affirmation. Not only is Cole not any kind of a scientist, he is a left-wing vicious moron whose support for anything should normally arouse only suspicion.
4 posted on 09/29/2005 8:16:47 PM PDT by Enchante (Would you trust YOUR life to Mayor Nagin or Governor Blankhead?)
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To: Enchante

Thanks for the heads up !


5 posted on 09/29/2005 8:25:59 PM PDT by so_real ("The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: BlueSky194
Three things I see this article doesn't mention:
  1. What is the energy in to usable fuel energy out ratio for this process? How does it compare plain old hydrogen from electrolysis?
  2. What is the volumetric energy density of the hydrogen generating zinc + water fuel? How does it compare to plain old liquefied hydrogen?
  3. What is the potential energy output of this process?
Granted, I could pull out my CRC and do the math to answer some of these questions, but I'm feeling lazy right now. However, the fact that these basic questions are not addressed in this article raises some warning flags.
6 posted on 09/29/2005 8:29:54 PM PDT by pillbox_girl
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To: BlueSky194
And another thing. From the article, it says:

the team used sunlight to heat a metal ore, such as zinc oxide, to about 1,200° Celsius in the presence of charcoal.

What is the charcoal for? Is it a catalyst? Or is it broken down, thereby releasing carbon into the atmosphere?

If it is consumed to make the zinc, then that kind of defeats the main purpose of the clean carbon free "hydrogen economy".

7 posted on 09/29/2005 8:34:14 PM PDT by pillbox_girl
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To: BlueSky194
"We still need to demonstrate the whole process on a larger scale before it could go to commercialization.

If it's a step forward for humanity and the USA would benefit from it the "greenies" with the help of the ACLU will use all resources available to stifle it's promotion.

8 posted on 09/29/2005 8:34:45 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: pillbox_girl
Granted, I could pull out my CRC and do the math to answer some of these questions, but I'm feeling lazy right now.

Don't you have a tungsten cowhide turbo encabulator handy to do the work for you? ; )

9 posted on 09/29/2005 8:37:42 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: BlueSky194
"Using Weizmann facilities, the team used sunlight to heat a metal ore, such as zinc oxide, to about 1,200° Celsius in the presence of charcoal. This split the ore, releasing oxygen and creating gaseous zinc, which was then condensed to a powder"

One small hole: the oxygen is released in form of...[drum roll, please] ... carbon monoxide [unpleasant poison, but could be used as a gas fuel or for synthesis] - their charcoal is going to end as carbon monoxide (which nobody is going to release on large scale) or dioxide, which is... [drum roll, please] ...a "greenhouse gas". The whole thing is an 120+ years old manufacturing process for zinc, but uses sunlight as a heat source instead of burning even more coal for the purpose.

Since zinc is [in theory] recyclable like a catalyst, they are virtually burning carbon (charcoal) in water vapor, generating hydrogen and CO or CO2.

10 posted on 09/29/2005 8:43:10 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: BlueSky194

I'm not sure which car maker in Europe, but I think it's Mercedes has a piston engine hydrogen car, and the refueling stations are driven by one wind turbine which produces the hydrogen on-site. It can also burn gas if hydrogen isn't available. Seemed simple enough.


11 posted on 09/29/2005 9:09:07 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: GSlob

So how is the Zinc turned into hydrogen to be burnt in your car??? How much hydrogen to you get per pound of Zinc? What are the other byproducts?

It sounds like both charcoal and sunlight are consumed to produce the end product.

I'm not even slightly chemically literate... But it sure sounds like there's some major holes in this story...


12 posted on 09/29/2005 9:45:24 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DB
"So how is the Zinc turned into hydrogen to be burnt in your car??? How much hydrogen to you get per pound of Zinc? What are the other byproducts?"
1. ZnO + C = CO+ Zn [at high temperature - zinc manufacture]
2. CO+ 0.5 O2 = CO2 + more heat [optional - disposal of CO]
3. Zn + H2O = ZnO + H2 [release of hydrogen from water; 32g of zinc and 9 grams of water would be needed to make 1 (one) gram of hydrogen]
Total balance:
C + H2O = CO + H2.
13 posted on 09/29/2005 9:59:02 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: GSlob

So the car has to carry the Zinc and the water and hold the byproduct to get 1/41th its weight in hydrogen leaving the rest as dead weight. That doesn't sound very efficient.


14 posted on 09/29/2005 10:22:54 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DB
I've looke this up. Here's the basic process:

C = Carbon (from charcoal)
O = Oxygen (from the air)
Zn = Zinc
H = Hydrogen (from water)

The first reaction to produce metallic zinc:

2·ZnO + C + heat ==> 2·Zn + CO2

The second reaction uses the zinc to release hydrogen from water:

Zn + H2O ==> H2 + ZnO

And finally, the hydrogen is burned to release energy and produce water:

2·H2 + O2 ==> 2·H2O + energy

The promoters of the so called "hydrogen economy" spend all their time and energy concentrating on the third equation. "Look," they say, "there's no pollution, only water."

What they foolishly fail to notice, or dishonestly fail to mention, the that CO2 lurking up there in the first equation. They never bother to look at their process in full, and combine all the equations for total inputs for total outputs. If we do that here, we get:

2·ZnO + C + heat + 2·Zn + 2·H2O + 2·H2 + O2 ==> 2·Zn + CO2 + 2·H2 + 2·ZnO + 2·H2O + energy

Now we need to remove the cancelled terms:

2·ZnO + C + heat + 2·Zn + 2·H2O + 2·H2 + O2 ==> 2·Zn + CO2 + 2·H2 + 2·ZnO + 2·H2O + energy

And this yields the resulting total equation:

C + O2 + heat ==> CO2 + energy

This, of course is the same chemical reaction as simply burning coal to get energy, except the people promoting this source for hydrogen to fuel the "hydrogen economy" have added in so many complications (not to mention inefficiencies) they no longer recognise it.

The promoters of the "hydrogen economy" are so intent on pushing hydrogen fueled cars that they fail to recognize or admit that some methods of generating hydrogen emit more greenhouse gasses per watt of energy than conventional fossil fuels. And this is one of those methods.

For an alternative fuel to be a true option for the future, it needs to meet two major requirements (and a bunch of minor ones I won't mention). It will need to allow us to be energy independent, and it needs to be carbon neutral. The inefficiencies of using hydrogen as a fuel make it very unlikely it will satisfy the first requirement any time soon. And using methods like the one proposed by this article are actually absolutely contrary to the second requirement.

15 posted on 09/29/2005 11:19:02 PM PDT by pillbox_girl
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16 posted on 09/29/2005 11:56:45 PM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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Thanks for the ping & bfl.


17 posted on 09/30/2005 12:25:06 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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Thanks. This may fit antiguv's new ping list.


18 posted on 09/30/2005 3:33:20 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Disclaimer -- this information may be legally false in Kansas.)
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To: pillbox_girl
C + O2 + heat ==> CO2 + energy


That won't solve global warming. It will get rid of Tropospheric Ozone in large urban areas, however.
19 posted on 09/30/2005 3:37:24 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("They're thin and they were riding bicycles" - Ted Turner on NK malnutrition.)
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20 posted on 09/30/2005 5:05:17 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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