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Huge Quake Cracks Star
www.space.com ^ | 27 September 2005 | Bjorn Carey

Posted on 09/27/2005 9:35:59 AM PDT by Esther Ruth

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To: Esther Ruth
The core of a magnetar is supposedly composed of subatomic particles. That's really cool.
21 posted on 09/27/2005 9:56:21 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: meanie monster
Don't you agree that strange things are happening more frequently?

Maybe. But maybe strange things have been happening for a long time and we're just more aware of them. We have an awful lot of quite intelligent sensors keeping track of a tremendous number of things these days. I don't think this magnetar event would have been noticed 30 years ago, other than by satellites whose purpose was classified, along with the data they generated.

22 posted on 09/27/2005 9:56:42 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: meanie monster

"Don't you agree that strange things are happening more frequently?"




Nope. Not at all. They aren't happening more frequently.

All the stuff mentioned in that passage is happening at about the same frequency it always has. Earthquakes, large storms, solar activity, political unrest. Whatever you mention is happening at about the same frequency it always has.

And so is the number of people quoting that verse and others happening at about the same frequency it always has. Everytime there's a huge earthquake or a disastrous storm or an unusual number of sunspots, or a war, someone trots out those verses. They forget the last time, and will have forgotten the next time.

All of the things mentioned happen all the time. When was mankind not at war? When were there not hurricanes? Supernova and other stellar explosions occur quite often. the Sun has a regular cycle of increased activity. Earthquakes happen every day.


23 posted on 09/27/2005 9:57:19 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Esther Ruth

It's a big universe; stuff happens all the time in it. This particular event happened about 50,000 years ago; we're just now seeing it.


24 posted on 09/27/2005 9:57:21 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: SlowBoat407
I believe the whole creation is going to do a LOT more than just burp before HE returns! (According to what the Bible tells us.) Yes, and it's unrelated to SUVs and all..

Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
25 posted on 09/27/2005 9:59:29 AM PDT by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3)
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To: Esther Ruth
Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

I didn't know they had habanero pepper burritos back then!

26 posted on 09/27/2005 10:04:16 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (The best things happen just before the thread snaps.)
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To: Esther Ruth
The temperature at the center of a thermonuclear detonation is ten times the temperature at the center of the sun.

Take that! Mother Nature.

27 posted on 09/27/2005 10:04:43 AM PDT by RightWhale (We in heep dip trubble)
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To: Esther Ruth

A few questions for those who know more than I do about this. Could this cracking of the crust be a sign of imminent collapse of the star, perhaps to form a singularity? Could this thing turn black hole? Would such an event fundamentally alter the structure of our galaxy, or would it simply be drawn in to the center?


28 posted on 09/27/2005 10:05:00 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: meanie monster

It's not increased frequency. We're just better at detecting it.


29 posted on 09/27/2005 10:07:11 AM PDT by Styria (Happily amillennial.)
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To: NJ_gent

Black holes seem to be very common in galaxies. If they were apt to swallow their galaxies, that would be happening. It is not happening--we ought to note that fact in our cosmological theories.


30 posted on 09/27/2005 10:07:42 AM PDT by RightWhale (We in heep dip trubble)
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To: Esther Ruth
It is Bush's fault. It is the Republican's fault. It is Global Warming's fault.


31 posted on 09/27/2005 10:08:20 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: NJ_gent; RadioAstronomer
A few questions for those who know more than I do about this. Could this cracking of the crust be a sign of imminent collapse of the star, perhaps to form a singularity? Could this thing turn black hole? Would such an event fundamentally alter the structure of our galaxy, or would it simply be drawn in to the center?

You need to direct your question to this guy:

RadioAstronomer Ping.

(steely)

32 posted on 09/27/2005 10:10:08 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: Esther Ruth
astronomers worldwide monitored the explosion that caused this starquake. The eruption was huge – in the first 200 milliseconds of the event the star released energy equivalent to what our Sun produces in 250,000 years. It was the brightest explosion ever detected outside of the Milky Way.

Amazing power considering the star is only about 6 miles in diameter. Really hard to believe.

33 posted on 09/27/2005 10:11:25 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: NJ_gent

"A few questions for those who know more than I do about this. Could this cracking of the crust be a sign of imminent collapse of the star, perhaps to form a singularity? Could this thing turn black hole? Would such an event fundamentally alter the structure of our galaxy, or would it simply be drawn in to the center?"

Probably not. Collapsing stars often blow off a bunch of their surface material, just before collapsing totally, but this cracking thing is a newly-observed phenomenon. I suspect the enormous interest is because it hasn't been seen before.

New instruments are making possible the study of a lot of things we haven't seen before, so it's a bit early to tell what this cracking star will lead to.

Dang big quake, though!


34 posted on 09/27/2005 10:13:36 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: NJ_gent

At the end of the article are links to others related, mentions black holes...this is one, see other links also..

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/050718_star_quake.html


35 posted on 09/27/2005 10:15:19 AM PDT by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3)
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To: Esther Ruth

People see "signs" whenver it suits them. The Islamofacists think that Hurricane Katrina is a sign. I think that it's a sign of something when people think natural events are a sign.


36 posted on 09/27/2005 10:17:40 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Esther Ruth

My brain at first saw "Star Huge Crack Quakes" for some reason.


37 posted on 09/27/2005 10:18:26 AM PDT by spiffy
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To: Esther Ruth
SGR 1806-20 is 50,000 light-years away...closest magnetar is 13,000 light-years away.

Inverse square rule. The same event at roughly one-fourth the distance would have sixteen times the impact to Earth.

From this article:

Solar storms also alter the shape of Earth's ionosphere, a region of the atmosphere 50 miles (80 kilometers) up where gas is so thin that electrons can be stripped from atoms and molecules -- they are ionized -- and roam free for short periods. Fluctuations in solar radiation cause the ionosphere to expand and contract.

"The gamma rays hit the ionosphere and created more ionization, briefly expanding the ionosphere," said Neil Gehrels, lead scientist for NASA's gamma-ray watching Swift observatory.

Gehrels said in an email interview that the effect was similar to a solar-induced disruption but that the effect was "much smaller than a big solar flare."
So, it seems to me that, depending upon how "much smaller" the impact was than that of a "big solar flare", a similar event at 13,000ly distance would have a measured effect on the ionosphere within one order of magnitude of that of a "big solar flare"; lots of beautiful aurorae, temporary ionospheric expansion, satellite disruption and/or disability, but no long-term terrestrial impact.

That same article goes on to note, however, that the nearest known samples of magnetars are 4,000-5,000ly away, not 13,000 as the current article states. This disparity may reflect a change in the status of the nearer objects, or an error by either the author of this article or the individual quoted in the other. Whatever the case, at 5,000ly, which is less than 1/10th of the distance from Earth, energy from a similar event would slam into our ionosphere with over 100 times the power of the 50,000ly distant event. That might well yield some atmospheric disruption worthy of concern.

38 posted on 09/27/2005 10:19:00 AM PDT by HKMk23 (Today's game: The FR Patriots v. The Hatriots)
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To: MizSterious

Nah...it's Bush's fault....


39 posted on 09/27/2005 10:23:27 AM PDT by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: spiffy

"Huge Quake Cracks Star"

If ya have kids tell them to say it five times real fast and see what they come up with. LOL


40 posted on 09/27/2005 10:25:12 AM PDT by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3)
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