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Let the games begin!
1 posted on 09/26/2005 12:14:10 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor; PatrickHenry

The first dispatch from the Eastern Front.


2 posted on 09/26/2005 12:15:35 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor (I'm a victim, you're a victim, he's a victim, she's a victim, wouldn't you like to be a victim too?)
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To: Right Wing Professor

This is an incredible waste of time and money...trying to prove the unprovable.


3 posted on 09/26/2005 12:16:30 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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bttt


4 posted on 09/26/2005 12:17:37 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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It seems pretty clear to me that the ID folks will not prevail in this case. The attempts to separate ID from creationism are doomed to failure, and that will be an end to this debate.

If a "higher being" did the design work, then those making that argument are going to be asked to identify what sort of being that might have been. They'll hem and haw and finally have to admit that it's a deity. Which deity? Well, any would do, since every religion has a creation myth of some kind. Are all deities equal? Did they form a committee to design the universe?

Are they all the same deity with different names, then?

Then the big question comes: How would science investigate a deity? Well, that would be impossible, of course, since a deity is obviously supernatural and out of the realm of scientific investigation.

So, no evidence for this "higher being" exists? Nope. Case over.


7 posted on 09/26/2005 12:25:04 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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For crying out loud, public schools can't even teach children to read!!! How are they supposed to teach intelligent design, creationism, evolution, or anything?


8 posted on 09/26/2005 12:27:19 PM PDT by Evacuee
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The parents, along with the American Civil Liberties Union and Americans United for the Separation of Church and State

Proof that even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

9 posted on 09/26/2005 12:30:24 PM PDT by narby
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As opposed to dumb design? :)


21 posted on 09/26/2005 12:51:57 PM PDT by Buffettfan (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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Read part of the complaint. Can't wait for the plaintiffs to provide proof that the evolutionary process leads to the appearance of new species. I suspect they will not be able to do so.

Also, is there a witness list?


23 posted on 09/26/2005 12:56:54 PM PDT by connectthedots
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Hoping science/common sense prevails (yes, I'm talking about evolution, not "intelligent design" dogma).


37 posted on 09/26/2005 1:31:01 PM PDT by JasonSC
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With world watching, trial starts

Heh. If they televise Saddam's trial, I might buy that headline. If they ever file a case against the guys who whacked Natalee Holloway, and they televise that trial, I might buy that headline. As it is, I suggest that there are few trials (if any) that the entire world is less likely to be following with bated breath than this one.

52 posted on 09/26/2005 2:57:25 PM PDT by RichInOC ("The coffee is strong at Cafe du Monde, the doughnuts are too hot to touch..." Save the Big Greasy!)
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We're behind enough in science education as it is without these ID moonbats dumbing down the system even further.


54 posted on 09/26/2005 3:00:38 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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Ugh. What an embarassment. I'm not a Pennsylvanian, but I'm still an American.
88 posted on 09/26/2005 6:56:42 PM PDT by curiosity
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... and indeed, I found an article about the Dover trial in my Swedish newspaper today. (here, in Swedish only)
98 posted on 09/27/2005 6:59:40 AM PDT by anguish (while science catches up.... mysticism!)
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Portion of today's article regarding testimony on Monday. miller seems to have admitted that evolution is not a 'fact'. Anyone who tries to suggest that gravity and friction are not 'facts' in the same way evolution is not a 'fact' is going to have problems later on in his cross examination. I don't think Miller is going to hold up very well.

http://www.yorkdispatch.com/local/ci_3066513

"Cross examination starts: The ACLU's Walczak ended his line of questioning with Miller with about an hour and a half left in the day.

Robert Muise, attorney with the Thomas More Law Center, began his cross examination by suggesting that maybe there was evidence, "observable, empirical facts" to a greater hand's help in the Red Sox victory.

His next line of questions seemed to focus on the language used in the board's policy, which says there are "gaps" in Darwin's theory.

But Miller countered that no scientific theory is a fact: Even the theories of friction and gravity are not "fact" because in science, everything is subject to testing.

Bonsell said he thought the first day of the trial was successful for the school board. In his opinion, he said, Miller had not said that the language in the school board's policy was incorrect."


101 posted on 09/27/2005 3:06:52 PM PDT by connectthedots
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