Posted on 09/23/2005 5:51:47 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
KLBJ radio reporting up to 5,000 cars parked along I-10 in Colorado County (near Columbus, TX) due to lack of gasoline or breakdowns. Also reporting trashcans at all quick stops/gasoline stations are overflowing. The exit ramps from I-10 into Columbus are closed and people are NOT allowed into the city from I-10.
Seems things just keep getting worse. Have they opened the roads going the opposite direction to evacuees? I know Florida usually does.
Trash cans are Bush's fault BUMP!
Oh boy....if there is any silver lining at all in this mess, it's to see just what needs to be done in our own states in the event of a castrophic event whether it's a storm, earthquake or a terrorist attack. Bottom line...we've got a lot of work to do....and a LOT of replanning to redo.......
I just heard that tanker trucks are going car to car giving every one 5 gallons of gas.
castrophic = catastrophic...(sigh)...
Schulenburg, TX on I-10 has opened a civic center there as a shelter due to the number of individuals stranded due to lack of gas/breakdowns. LOTS of people stalled on roadways and it must be happening in many places. Anyone else have perspective?
What the leadership realizes and the average American and the press don't is that it is virtually impossible to effectively evacuate a major city. Always has been always will be.
I've been thinking the same thing. Some day, even those people who've been caught in these tragic storms (and survived) may be grateful for what we're learning.
Let's stop the "Bush's Fault" comment.
Can I get an "Amen!" ?
Does that sound reasonable? Is 'gridlock' gridlock if a tanker can go "car to car"?
You are absolutely correct. This concept being able to move millions of people out of an urban area in a very short span of time has always been on the same level as urban myth.
NO! Not the trashcans! This is series!
Amen! It's not funny anymore. Overused.
THey have, but that's different from actually getting the word out to people stuck in their cars. There's also the issue that many interstates have concrete dividers that make it impossible to cross easily from one side to the other. If there were a grass median, it's much easier to cross.
Wonder if they said this in Houston...and I must admit there is no way to enforce it...but here in Tampa Bay area, EOC and Jeb Bush stress, "If you are not in an evac zone, stay put."
Our city is coded, Evac A,B,C,D,E and a good part of the city is under no evac zone... they issue evac orders based on threat, and if it is a multi-county evac, the evacs are also staggered by county.
I'm in an E evac zone and have never been ordered to evacuate. If I was, our family (parents, sister and her family, everyone except hubby who has to stay behind due to work at EOC) would leave using back roads, taking the long way around Tampa Bay, avoiding the bridges and interstates, in order to make our way inland to a large family vacation home where we could all congregate and sit out the storm.
This mass evacuation on Interstates doesn't seem to work too well.
On FoxNews this morning, they stated that the Guard did exactly that. They put different nozzles on the 5K tankers.
It's Bush's fault that you want an Amen.
I agree- it's wearing a bit thin.
Besides, it's become a meme from the Left, the Media, and their handmaidens- it's not like you'll never hear it again... :)
I cringe at every one of the Bush fault posts.
If the posters have nothing original to offer, just go away.
AMEN.....
Why is traffic during a major evacuation news? Is it a surprise?
The media should focus on showing the best routes out of the city and making timely updates instead of showing clips of traffic jams that were taped 24 hours earlier.
This should NOT be allowed to happen. We had better have an independent investigation. When trash cans are full.... uhmm
Amen.
People have slept in parking lots and on the shoulder of the interstate last night. Gas stations in almost all small towns along I-10 have run out of gas. Gas stations along Hwy. 77 North from Schulenburg are running out of gas. I believe that is news. If not, you let me know.
Trash cans? Why are they whining about trash cans? Nagin killed 400 by leaving his buses to drown, and all the media can complain about in Texas is traffic jams and trash cans.
You know, if I were there, I would get a map out and use country roads to get where I want to go. May not be as fancy, but it beats sitting on the interstate. I do this kind of thing whenever I come upon gridlock, no matter what city I am driving through.
God forbid we get a WMD attack, or simultaneous attack. The resulting chaos will be beyond anyone's nightmares. There will be shootouts as gas stations. "The Road Warrior" will be a better guide than the FEMA Manual.
I'm more worried about I-45, it's always had major gridlock even in daily traffic and they do have concrete medians.
" I believe that is news. If not, you let me know."
Great, now what are the alternate routes for evacuation. Instead of focusing on taking pics of cars stopped, maybe focusing on solutions would be better. I want people to provide solutions not recite known problems.
And no, I do not think showing taped traffic jams where there is no longer traffic is "news".
Anything else you want to know?
That's good to know. I have friends and family in Houston, so I hope the congestion eases.
Can you imagine trying to evacuate Los Angeles?
-virtually impossible to effectively evacuate a major city-
A very good point. Greater Houston area is 4 million, I think. The freeways become stop and go on a normal day at rush hours! One of the reasons I left was Houston trafic....
Are they saying that these people know where the trash is supposed to go?
Contrast this with the cleanliness of the NO Superdome...
Exactly. I would have had at least a couple of alternative routes mapped out.
"God forbid we get a WMD attack, or simultaneous attack. The resulting chaos will be beyond anyone's nightmares. There will be shootouts as gas stations. "The Road Warrior" will be a better guide than the FEMA Manual."
This is the Only real failure of our society at this point. We entered a war and the government told us to sit back and be happy "The Government will take care of you.".
I'm sorry, but as a Voting Citizen of this Nation, I AM THE GOVERNMENT!
We should not be seeing this kind of mass confusion, if the "government" really took this war, and the threats to our Cities seriously, there would be a comprehensive Civil Defense organization in place that could rapidly assist in everything from Earthquakes and Hurricanes to Terrorist attacks on Major Cities.
No, it would not be perfect, but it would be one damn sight better than this Keystone Kops situation we have seen in the last month.
Our "Leaders" had better get a GD clue soon.
AMEN. They don't seem capable of helping, just bitching. They could have been offering ways out via the back roads. My BIL made it from Sugarland to Dallas in 12 hours yesterday (4am to 4pm). How he did that is not a story I guess. The dummy that left @ 8am with 1/4 tank of gas and no water in the car who insists I-45 is the only way to Dallas and has gone 60 miles in 24 hours is a better story to them.
I've been sick of it for months.
Amen.
AMEN!
Better yet, how about 1 day suspensions for "Bush's Fault" postings? That'll put and end to it real quick.
The measurement of an evacuation plan is not how many people run out of gas 20-30 miles from the danger zone. It is not how many trash cans are overflowing. It is not who gets impatient and angry in their car.
It is how many die from direct storm causes and who tried to get out.
So far, superb results. Of course, the storm is still inbound.
"AMEN!" back atcha!
Well put.
add: with a full bladder!
We'll stop when they stop. ie - don't hold your breath
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Wow, anybody stupid enough to try to get out of town this late in the game...
READ THE HEADLINES FOR MONDAY....
Thousands possibly lost or injured trying to escape RITA.
and....
RITA PETERS!!! Storm becomes Cat 2 Overnight, causes little damage!
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