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China shamed by forced abortions
Times Online ^ | 9/18/05 | Michael Sheridan

Posted on 09/17/2005 11:53:41 PM PDT by Crackingham

Horrifying revelations of forced abortions and compulsory sterilisation in China embarrassed the Beijing government last week just as President Hu Jintao took the international stage. The exposure of practices that break China’s own laws governing birth control was the work of a blind man who has led a campaign to bring officials to justice for their crimes.

However, Chen Guancheng, 34, the campaigner, is under house arrest this weekend in Linyi, a city of 10m people where family planning officials have committed the worst abuses documented in recent years. All involve poor people in and around Linyi, which lies in Shandong province, some 400 miles southeast of Beijing. They have described brutal coercion that started last March when the local authorities panicked over the number of “unplanned births”.

Under Chinese regulations rural people may have more than one child if the firstborn is a girl or disabled. In Shandong, however, many women had given birth to more than two children. Lower-ranking Communist party officials were chastised for failing to enforce the law, a misdemeanour that often leads to dismissal or demotion. They reacted by launching a sweep through villages, rounding up people with more than two children. Pregnant women had forced abortions, while both men and women were compulsorily sterilised. According to numerous witnesses, the authorities held relatives and neighbours hostage, threatening them with torture so as to force victims to submit.

Detailed accounts given by Chen to US embassy officials and published by The Washington Post and Time magazine will cause outrage among conservative Christians and pro-life groups in the United States. The stories appeared as the Chinese president made his first official visit to the United States and spoke at the United Nations, where he faced protests about human rights. They are likely to force President George W Bush to put right to life on his agenda when he visits China in November. The stories collected by Chen are so disturbing that even Chinese officials in Beijing have called them “serious human rights violations”.

Women told how they were held down as doctors jammed needles into them to induce abortions in the seventh or eighth month of pregnancy. One victim, Li Juan, 23, told Time that she was in the ninth month of pregnancy when a group of men pinned her down on a bed in a local clinic and plunged a poison-filled syringe into her abdomen.

“At first I could feel my child kicking a lot. Then after a while I couldn’t feel her kicking anymore,” she is quoted as saying.

Li’s baby girl appeared to be dead on delivery, but just to make sure the officials held the infant in a bucket of water next to the bed for several minutes.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: forcedabortions; leftistevil; leftistmurder

1 posted on 09/17/2005 11:53:41 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

Hmmm....what else was expected out of a Communist state?

I am not at all surprised that existing laws are ignored. Communism always meant that.

Pray that China will be free some day. I will be long dead before that, but will wish the same even from hell or heaven where I end up.


2 posted on 09/17/2005 11:56:59 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: William Creel

Hillary is salivating.


4 posted on 09/17/2005 11:58:13 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Crackingham
And from the pro-Choice American Left we hear...?

crickets

5 posted on 09/17/2005 11:58:26 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Crackingham

Why again does China have MFN status?


6 posted on 09/17/2005 11:59:30 PM PDT by SolarisRocks
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To: Crackingham

The one child policy is not so rigorously enforced in China's rural territories. The further they are from Peking and the more "tribal", the less Peking (Beijing to you newbies) dares to enforce it. I would say some of these families are having three and four children


7 posted on 09/18/2005 12:03:34 AM PDT by dennisw (G_D : Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: Crackingham
“At first I could feel my child kicking a lot. Then after a while I couldn’t feel her kicking anymore,” she is quoted as saying.

Saline injection abortions. The child dies a slow, excruciating death as her skin progressively disintigrates. "Safe" and legal in America, btw.

8 posted on 09/18/2005 12:03:46 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: SolarisRocks

Because they contributed to Bill Clinton's '96 re-election campaign.


9 posted on 09/18/2005 12:06:43 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Crackingham
"Detailed accounts given by Chen to US embassy officials and published by The Washington Post and Time magazine will cause outrage among conservative Christians and pro-life groups in the United States."

Sad state of affairs.

Every civilized person on the planet should be outraged.

Just think how screwed up the gene pool has to be in China. They've killed all the thinkers and people with courage for so long that most the country must be filled with dumb sheep like people by now.
10 posted on 09/18/2005 12:17:09 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Crackingham
Errrr

PLANNED PARENTHOOD BLACKMAILS OR COERCES LITTLE GIRLS TO HAVE ABORTIONS AND COVER UP FOR PEDOPHILES/RAPISTS WHO DID IT. same difference


11 posted on 09/18/2005 12:20:05 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: indianrightwinger
You plan on dying soon?

I think China will suddenly implode without warning.

Who knows when. But it could be literally anytime.
12 posted on 09/18/2005 12:20:07 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Crackingham
compulsory sterilisation in China embarrassed the Beijing government last week

What evidence is there that the government were embarrassed, or that it cares at all?

13 posted on 09/18/2005 12:58:45 AM PDT by konaice
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To: indianrightwinger

hmmm. you tell me.............which is worse. same end--different means. In China, woman are forced to kill their children, in America, we do it voluntarily.


14 posted on 09/18/2005 2:10:50 AM PDT by applpie
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To: Crackingham

What the fuss is all about? After all we are only talking about a mass of tissue, right? /sarcasm off


15 posted on 09/18/2005 4:25:06 AM PDT by Tarkin (Janice Rogers Brown to the SCOTUS)
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To: Crackingham
Very, very sad but what else can you expect from a totally Communist/Socialist/Liberal country.

Communist/Socialist/Liberal is exactly the direction the DeMARXocrat Democrats want America to become.

16 posted on 09/18/2005 4:34:44 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: Crackingham
Detailed accounts given by Chen to US embassy officials and published by The Washington Post and Time magazine will cause outrage among conservative Christians and pro-life groups in the United States.

...and caused dead silence and the din of chirping crickets from the pro-choice, pro-privacy, pro-abortion, pro-NARAL, pro-Planned Parenthood, left...

Whatever happens in the privacy of a state-run Chinese hospital and a Chinese woman should be kept private. (BARF!)

17 posted on 09/18/2005 5:08:45 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Crackingham
Those who advocate central planning/collectivism have either to be purposely shutting stuff like this out of their perception or else they are the demonic monsters that the Chinese (&North Korean and Syrian & Iranian & Cuban) government (not the people) is.
18 posted on 09/18/2005 5:27:19 AM PDT by RoadTest (Required Reading For Heads Of Bureaucracies & Corporations: Dilbert)
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To: indianrightwinger

. . . but look at the upside . . . 'always low prices' always wins over value . . .s


19 posted on 09/22/2005 7:56:12 PM PDT by harryson
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To: Crackingham
This is horrifying. Although I don't agree with Dante on too much, I have to give him credit for pointing to the worst of sins (and easily referenced from the Gospels too).

Communist China FORCED their women to abort, but there are other nations that brought women willingly to kill their own children. When Communism dissolves in China, and it probably will happen sooner than we expect, her people, as a whole, will be guiltless of forced abortions. The very definition of "forced abortion" means that the mother was unwilling to have her baby murdered. The crime will rest on the will of those who carry out such horrors.

"If little faults, proceeding on distemper,
Shall not be wink'd at, how shall we stretch our eye
When capital crimes, chew'd, swallow'd and digested,
Appear before us?"
-- Henry V, William Shakespeare

Abortion is not a "little" fault. But a victim of abortion is faultless. China will become Christian because only Christianity will forgive former Communists. Satan doesn't have the Divine strength to forgive. No lesser power than Christ will wisk away the power elite from its own total destruction.
20 posted on 09/22/2005 8:21:17 PM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
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