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To: razoroccam; ulmo3
Unfortunately Gengis, you are wrong on four critical issues:

1. Iran is not a friend of India. Start with Nadir Shah, through the Shah of Iran (who gave money to Pakistan) to present day Iran (which pressures India every time a Muslim in India, even a terrorist, sneezes)
 
That is pretty much the case with all the Muslim countries. Forget Nadir Shah or the Shah of Iran, you seem to forget a more recent events where India and Iran worked together to take out the Pakistan based Taliban. Even today most of our logistical supplies to Afghanistan passes through Iran because of Pakistans refusal to grant India transit. Dont forget that it was Iran that had opposed the Kashmir resolution mooted by Benazir Bhutto who had the backing of the entire OIC. It was Iran that stalled the resolution.

2. Iran was and is a signatory to the NPT, India is not. Therefore, India's building the bomb was not breaking the rules of NPT. Iran would be breaking the NPT regulations.
 
As far as India is concerned, we do not recognise the NPT and as a result, to us it doesnt matter who violates the rules of NPT. My point was the India cannot act as the NPT police when we ourselves do not recognise or ratify the laws laid down by the regime. When we have neither recognised nor ratified NPT, the question of India censuring Iran for violating NPT does not arise.

3. You cannot equate Iran's acquisition of nuclear weapons to that of India. Iran has offered nuclear technology to all Muslim countries. How often has India offered to share its nuclear knowhow?
 
Iran is definitely at fault on that count (and many more) but if the world (read America) has no problem with Pakistan already having passed on Nuclear technology to much of the Islamic world, then we (India) should not be complaining too much about Iranian nuclear technology.
 
Iran is definately on the wrong side. I am not justifying the case for Iran. My point is that we (India) refuse to be dragged into the arena, to further what is essentially America's agenda for the region. We have our own interest to look after.

4. India is being short sighted about the gas pipeline. How long would gas from Iran take care of India's needs? And how easily would it be held hostage to upheavals in Pakistan and Iran? In contrast, nuclear plants offered by US would help India without having to rely on unstable supply issues. As long as it doesn't piss off Australia (i.e. they can keep winning cricket matches, but with the team we have, that should be no problem)
Would US guaranty uninterrupted supplies of nuclear fuel in the event of military standoff/conflict with Pakistan or in the event of India carry out another series of nuclear tests? I dont know how exactly nuclear energy can replace hydrocarbons. We will still need oil from somewhere......... anywhere. Be it Iran.

44 posted on 09/18/2005 1:13:43 PM PDT by Gengis Khan (Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until u hear them speak.)
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To: Gengis Khan
"My point is that we (India) refuse to be dragged into the arena, to further what is essentially America's agenda for the region."

There is not much that we in the USA will do about Euro-trash, PLA or other Evil Empire conspiracy stories about "America's agenda." IMO, we in the USA should get out of the region altogether and let the more powerful countries of Asia decide as to which will rule over the others. That is...as long as no country tries to attack our Pacific Rim Allies, in which case, such antagonistic country and its materiel supporters will be stopped.

We are very much against "empire." And IMO, we've been making a great mistake in trading so much with countries like Communist China.
51 posted on 09/18/2005 1:57:16 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: Gengis Khan

Not a thing you stated has effectively changed my opinion or countered the facts I stated.
1. Iran supported Gulbuddin Hekamatyar. Would you like to see him in power in Afghanistan?
2. Stick to the facts - India has not signed the NPT, Iran has. You cannot equate India's nuclear program with Iran's.
3. India is doing a lousy job pointing out the obvious.
4. Australia, Australia, Australia.


53 posted on 09/18/2005 3:59:55 PM PDT by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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