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1 posted on 09/17/2005 7:50:54 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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Good advice...but it reads like an ad for Carfax ... typical of a lazy reporter copying a press release.


2 posted on 09/17/2005 7:52:38 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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Always, always, always check the VIN with Car Fax before buying a used car. It may look perfect on the outside but if it has been underwater there is a very good chance the electrical system is shot. And if water got into the exhaust, the catalytic converter and muffler are probably shot as well and the inside of the engine may very well have be corroded.


3 posted on 09/17/2005 8:00:09 AM PDT by stm
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There is an enormous amount of jonque out there. The steel mines could almost be closed down for several months, while the stock of automotive scrap is used up.

LOTS of reclaimable plastics, aluminum and lead-acid batteries to be salvaged. I see great potential for an electric-power foundry or two to go into operation.


4 posted on 09/17/2005 8:03:15 AM PDT by alloysteel ("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
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I just returned from ten days of shooting photos in the affected areas and can tell you firsthand of the hundreds of cars sitting in yards with all two or four doors, the trunk and the hood open to speed the drying out process. I was amazed at how little visible damage these vehicles had, but they had been fully submerged in some cases. Give me a minute to figure out how and I will post a link to a photo of one such vehicle. Meanwhile, interested parties can peruse the pictures I took during that time at: http://www.jwparker.com . You'll have to click on a thumbnail in the second row of images for the storm shots. The site is used to display my various shoots and not just for the storm, so you'll have to excuse the other sections.


5 posted on 09/17/2005 8:04:38 AM PDT by jwpjr
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6 posted on 09/17/2005 8:06:28 AM PDT by doug from upland (Arianna Huffington loves that big gas guzzling Suburban)
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A major clue and easy to check is the fact the vehicle will be missing it's owners manual. Also flip up the back seat and look for the work order. If it's rotted out, one may deduce that the vehicle was in the soak, wash and spin cycle.


8 posted on 09/17/2005 8:06:59 AM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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I'll bet you can get a good deal on well-marinated school buses, too.


9 posted on 09/17/2005 8:08:12 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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I thought your insurance company did a title check?


11 posted on 09/17/2005 8:13:42 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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When Hurricane Floyd struck Florida in 1999, an estimated 75,000 vehicles were ruined by floods...

Well, LA doesn't have THAT problem....there couldn't have been a lot of cars, cause nobody had any transportaion, they couldn't get out...thousands died <-sarcasm off>
12 posted on 09/17/2005 8:20:46 AM PDT by stylin19a (In golf, some are long, I'm "Lama Long")
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I purchased such a vehicle in 1994: a 1990 Nissan Sentra with 22,000 miles. I drove it for 6 years, sold it to a friend. He drove it for 3 years, at which point it needed some work. He sold it to a guy who fixes up cars. He replaced the clutch and rebuilt the transmission. It's still going, now it has over 100,000 on the clock.

The vehicle was sold to me by a dealer who explained the rebuilt title and the type of flood damage.


13 posted on 09/17/2005 8:21:43 AM PDT by proxy_user
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But some unscrupulous dealers and wholesalers buy flood-damaged cars at scrap prices, clean them up, retitle them and resell them.

But not all flooded vehicles go that route. Plenty of individual operators will be fixing up these cars and selling them on the side, side-stepping the insurance companies, Car Fax, etc.

I always laugh when "they" tell you to have a mechanic check out a car before you buy it. Whatta they think, we're gonna convince a seller to let us have the car for a day or two and pay a mechanic $120/hr (or whatever the heck it is nowadays) to pour over every car we're thinking about buying? No thanks.

Personally, in the future I think I'll just avoid all used cars up through model year 2005.

24 posted on 09/17/2005 8:46:20 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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That's why one should run a Carfax check on any used car prior to purchase to check the title. Extended Warranty companies will not warranty a car with a rebuilt or laundered title. I would never buy a rebuilt car - why risk your kids' life? And it goes without saying to have an independent mechanic check the car for any expensive problems - these are the ones that typically show up after a purchase of a used car. A used car can be an excellent value for those who do their homework - don't count on the salesman doing it for you.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
30 posted on 09/17/2005 10:13:33 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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My Daughter and her husband bought a car which had been flooded and restored. Now they were told up front that it had been restored.

I told them it was probably a bad buy but they had both just graduated from college and were starting out without much money. They bought it, and to my surprise, it never gave them any trouble. Apparantly it can be done if done correctly.

31 posted on 09/17/2005 10:19:44 AM PDT by yarddog
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Ebay shyster ping


33 posted on 09/17/2005 10:45:11 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 (The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.)
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Anytime one buys a used car you are taking a chance. I've bought my share over the years and even if they are checked by a "mechanic" and are not flood damaged they can still have significant problems. That's why I buy them new.

There are going to be a whole bunch of pissed off used car buyers in the future from these flood cars. They'll even have a "60 minutes" piece for sure.


34 posted on 09/17/2005 11:28:15 AM PDT by RichardW
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Everytime a section of the country floods, we get this "warning" from the press. Lazy reporters, dusting off an old story.


35 posted on 09/17/2005 11:30:11 AM PDT by toddlintown (Your papers please.)
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Ho-hum.

Bush's Fault.

36 posted on 09/17/2005 11:37:58 AM PDT by N. Theknow (If you need a business, then make it your business to mind your own business.)
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There will be a boatload of flood cars on sale all over the country. Many years ago, a friend of mine got a "real deal" on a 74 Caprice, only to find it smelled like rotten fish whenever it rained.


38 posted on 09/17/2005 12:12:45 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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But some unscrupulous dealers and wholesalers buy flood-damaged cars...

Some? And while we're at it I'd like a list of the "scrupulous" dealers. Never mind I had it right here on this page before I started writing.

44 posted on 09/18/2005 5:53:52 AM PDT by FreePaul
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