Freep the GOP Reps who voted "aye" on special rights for gays

but I have to go out on a limb here

You are not going out on a limb -you are creating your own limb! There is no pro-homosexualization debate limb here to go out on...

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We can argue about what criteria we use in determining, and what should or should not be included, but not the process itself. This is no closer to "hate crimes" than stiffer penalties for those who kill cops as opposed to regular citizens.

Interesting point and one I hadn't considered. How is "intent" determined? As a layman I think murder is murder whether the victim is a cop or a homosexual.

But after a little reflection, it seems to me it's entirely justifiable to demand stiffer penalties for cop killers. Police are representatives of all citizens and are empowered by the law, which represents us all. Anyone who flouts the law itself is flouting society as a whole. My point is that "hate crimes" legislation is bad law. Do you approve of it?

I despise Kolbe as much as anyone. He is supposedly my representative, and he is a farce. Last election time he sent out these cornball "Howdy neighbor" pamphlets with himself in a checkered shirt surrounded by old people. The village idiots voted him back in.

The guy is a raging homo and one awful representative. I can't believe East Tucson keeps voting for him to practice his perversions and pass them on into the government. He is one sick Rino.

But what is with the GOP leadership letting this abomination come up for a vote in the first place? This is the awful stuff we expect to see when the Dems are in power. Yet the GOP keeps on being good little Bolsheviks and releasing just enough of their own to vote this thought crime garbage in. This is no accident. We have no representation in this country. And our freedoms are going down in Orwellian fashion.

I don't know specifically how intent is arrived at in law. It seems to me if someone takes after another person with a meat cleaver it's reasonable to assume intent to commit murder. But once the murder is done it defies logic to conclude that one kind of murder is "worse" than another kind. An exception might be the one mentioned in my last post where the law itself is the "victim."

I agree it's reasonable for elected officials to determine criteria, as you suggest. It's also crucial for citizens to make a big fuss when those officials exceed the limits of good sense, as they have in this matter. They are trying to eliminate prejudice. As one writer on the subject, a Jew who's also gay, says:

"But different groups will have different ideas of what constitutes “prejudice." (Is secular humanism prejudice against Christians? Is Afrocentrism prejudice against whites?) That is why eliminating prejudice is exactly what “the country" — meaning its governmental authorities — must not resolve to do. Not only is wiping out bias and hate impossible in principle, in practice "eliminating prejudice" through force of law means eliminating all but one prejudice — that of whoever is most politically powerful."

And that's where the danger I mentioned in my first post lies.

Man-Hating is the #1 hate crime in America today. Hate Target of Political Correctness Click "View Larger."

There are over 700 women's studies programs on college campuses across America with ten's of thousands of classes all teaching a curriculum that vilifies males. Examples I have seen on the bulleting board in the Liberal Studies bldg. of Santa Monica College are:

# If men could get pregnant abortion would be a sacrament.

# What can men do to stop their violence against women?

# Text books loaded with male bashing propaganda, half truths, and misandrist statistics.

If any other "group" besides men were targeted so specifically for derision, the political correctness enforcers would be coming out of the wood works with their Stalinist punishments and commie re-education tactics.

America now has the highest rate of incarceration in the world. We've now passed Russia. ...and 93% of the prison populaton is male.

This legislation is just one more example of how liberal communist democrats in America are working overtime to destroy the thing they hate the most - free speech.

Every politician who voted for this is a royal scumbag. Can I still say that?

WARNING, WARNING, WARNING: A scumbag, liberal politican will be coming to your neighborhood soon to steal yours rights, liberties, freedoms, privileges and anything else that has made America the land of the free and the home of the brave. Don't let them do it.

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