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Windows Vista Product Editions Revealed (Microsoft Milks the market)
Arstechnica.com ^ | 9/10/2005 | Ken Fischer

Posted on 09/12/2005 8:09:27 AM PDT by BallandPowder

If you've been wondering why Windows Vista has taken a long time to reach Beta 1, we can now tell you why: there are seven separate editions of Vista headed your way. OK, that's not the reason for the delay, but how else do you introduce that many OS versions, without invoking Snow White & friends? Join me know as I romp through the various editions, many of which you'll see are just barely differentiated.

First up, there's Starter Edition, which like XP Starter Edition, is a crippled (and lame) product aimed at the two-thirds world. It will limit users to three concurrent applications, and provide only basic TCP/IP networking, and won't be suitable for most games. The next step up is Home Basic Edition, which is really the sibling to today's Windows XP Home. However, as the name suggests, there's also Home Premium Edition, and this is where we start to split features like hairs and create a gaggle of products. HPE will build on the the Basic Edition by adding, most notably, the next-generation of Media Center capabilities, including support for HDTV, DVD authoring, and even DVD ripping backed up (of course) by Windows DRM. For non-corporate types, this is probably going to be the OS that most people use. It's similar to XP Pro in power, but with all of the added bells and whistles for entertainment. Well, most of them.

Windows Vista Professional Edition won't occupy the same spot that XP Pro occupies today, because this time it's truly aimed at businesses. It won't feature the MCE functionality that Home Premium Edition has, but it begins to provide the kind of functionality you'd expect in a business environment, such as support for non-Microsoft networking protocols and Domain support. But don't expect too many businesses to necessarily turn to PE. Microsoft is also planning both a Small Business Edition and an Enterprise Edition, which build upon pro by adding (seemingly minor) features aimed at appealing to each market. SBE, for instance, includes a networked backup solution, while EE will include things like Virtual PC integration, and the ability to encrypt an entire volume of information.

Last but not least, there's Ultimate Edition. Hey, I'm just glad that they didn't call it Extreme Edition. I'll leave it to Paul Thurrott, who has all of the details, to explain (and promote) this beast:

The best operating system ever offered for a personal PC, optimized for the individual. Windows Vista Ultimate Edition is a superset of both Vista Home Premium and Vista Pro Edition, so it includes all of the features of both of those product versions, plus adds Game Performance Tweaker with integrated gaming experiences, a Podcast creation utility (under consideration, may be cut from product), and online "Club" services (exclusive access to music, movies, services and preferred customer care) and other offerings (also under consideration, may be cut from product). Microsoft is still investigating how to position its most impressive Windows release yet, and is looking into offering Ultimate Edition owners such services as extended A1 subscriptions, free music downloads, free movie downloads, Online Spotlight and entertainment software, preferred product support, and custom themes. There is nothing like Vista Ultimate Edition today. This version is aimed at high-end PC users and technology influencers, gamers, digital media enthusiasts, and students.

OK, everyone got that? There will be a quiz on Monday.

My initial reactions are reserved, because there's just not that much detail available. Pricing, for instance, would be really nice to know. Will Home Basic Edition debut below the price point of XP Home today? Place your bets. The one thing I will say is that I fear that this may cause a great deal of confusion on behalf of your average consumer. Two versions of XP were enough to cause confusion, and now Joe Blow has four choices that may fit the bill.

One final note worth mentioning is that this strategy does remove the "corporate Windows XP" option from the hands of pirates. Volume licensing for Pro, SBE, and EE may still mean that there will be copies of Windows Vista out there that don't "call home" for Windows Product Activation, but as you can see, Microsoft has removed most of the features that most pirates would want from those OSes. You won't see corporate licensing versions of Ultimate Edition.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Technical
KEYWORDS: convictedmonopoly; drainyourwallet; lowqualitycrap; microsoft; monopoly; vista
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Micro$oft tries to eat EVERYONES lunch with this OS. Great for M$ and consumers get their pooch scr*wed
1 posted on 09/12/2005 8:09:35 AM PDT by BallandPowder
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To: BallandPowder
They forgot the debut of Windows RG.
2 posted on 09/12/2005 8:13:57 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

3 posted on 09/12/2005 8:16:40 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: BallandPowder

If the bring it out the same way that they introduced ME and XP with lots of bundle freebies included, I will buy it.


4 posted on 09/12/2005 8:20:54 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: BallandPowder
Novell: Vista will drive users to Linux

WindowsRG full screen demo

5 posted on 09/12/2005 8:20:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: BallandPowder

Good lord...


6 posted on 09/12/2005 8:21:09 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (It would be "quintessentially American" to rebuild the World Trade Center towers in New Orleans.)
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To: BallandPowder

I like XP because it provides sharper text with Microsoft cleartype .... http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypeInfo.mspx No way will I move to Vista unless they make cleartype even better. The hardware requirements are crazy such as one gig of memory


7 posted on 09/12/2005 8:23:52 AM PDT by dennisw (***)
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To: Izzy Dunne

LOL! That was a hoot!


8 posted on 09/12/2005 8:25:17 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: dennisw

A Tech Strategist within Microsoft, Nigel Page, has gone on record to discuss the hardware requirements for Windows Vista, due out next Christmas.

What he's said is kind of shocking.


System breakdown

Graphics: Vista has changed from using the CPU to display bitmaps on the screen to using the GPU to render vectors. This means the entire display model in Vista has changed. To render the screen in the GPU requires an awful lot of memory to do optimally - 256MB is a happy medium, but you'll actually see benefit from more. Microsoft believes that you're going to see the amount of video memory being shipped on cards hurtle up when Vista ships.

CPU: Threading is the main target for Vista. Currently, very little of Windows XP is threaded - the target is to make Vista perform far better on dual-core and multi-core processors.

RAM: 2GB is the ideal configuration for 64-bit Vista, we're told. Vista 32-bit will work ideally at 1GB, and minimum 512. However, since 64-bit is handling data chunks that are double the size, you'll need double the memory, hence the 2GB. Nigel mentions DDR3 - which is a little odd, since the roadmap for DDR3, on Intel gear at least, doesn't really kick in until 2007.

HDD: SATA is definitely the way forward for Vista, due, Microsoft tells us, to Native Command Queueing. NCQ allows for out of order completions - that is, if Vista needs tasks 1,2,3,4 and 5 done, it can do them in the order 2,5,3,4,1 if that's a more efficient route for the hard drive head to take over the disk. This leads to far faster completion times. NCQ is supported on SATA2 drives, so expect them to start becoming the standard sooner rather than later. Microsoft thinks that these features will provide SCSI-level performance.

Bus: AGP is 'not optimal' for Vista. Because of the fact that graphics cards may have to utilise main system memory for some rendering tasks, a fast, bi-direction bus is needed - that's PCI express.

Display: Prepare to feel the red mist of rage - no current TFT monitor out there is going to support high definition playback in Vista. You may already have heard rumblings about this, but here it is. To play HD-DVD or Blu-Ray content you need a HDCP compatible monitor. Why? Because these formats use HDCP to encrypt a video signal as it travels along a digital connection to an output device, to prevent people copying it. If you have just standard DVI or even an analogue output, you're going to see HD scaled down to a far-less-than-HD resolution for viewing - which sucks. This isn't really Microsoft's fault - HDCP is something that content makers, in their eternal wisdom, have decided is necessary to stop us all watching pirated movies. Yay.


Thoughts

Amusingly, Page admits that there are no monitors out there that will do HDCP, and that this is a problem. Frankly, it's the consumer's problem, however, according to him. "It's up to you [the users] to say, 'Where's my HDCP?'"

I'm more inclined to say to Hollywood 'Hey, STFU' to be honest.

One of the major problems is that Hollywood knows that Microsoft dominates the operating system sphere, and so it can arm-wrestle MS into working with it. If there was more competition, Hollywood would have to be a little more cautious about what it tries to get away with.

We come back to the age-old problem. Content is being forced onto us that is, to all extents and purposes, crippled. It's not like any of this stuff is actually going to make any difference - we're still going to have dodgy films on the net, probably in no less quantity than we have now - so why would be pay to be screwed, when we can just get an uncrippled version for free?

But, that's a little off topic. In terms of the hardware stuff, it seems obvious that hardware makers are rubbing their hands in glee. It's been hard to persuade people to upgrade their WinXP boxes, since they can handle pretty much anything thrown at them, unless you're a gamer. Graphics companies are going to be selling a bucket-load more GPUs, since now practically every system sold for Vista is going to need one. It's no coincidence that Nvidia is re-introducing onboard graphics for its motherboards very soon.

2GB of RAM for high-end systems is pretty chunky, and it could be that we start to see RAM prices go up as suddenly, a big percentage of systems are being built with 4 times the current requirement. If you thought SATA2 had been slow to take off, expect every new enthusiast chipset to have it built in next year, and for drive makers to start shifting over to it quick - if they're not building a huge number of NCQ drives by the middle of next year, they risk missing out on loads of orders come Vista.

It looks like the next 12 months are going to be extremely interesting... Let us know what you think of these developments in this forum thread.

EDIT: Utterly forgot to give credit to the original source, which is over at APCStart.com.


9 posted on 09/12/2005 8:27:43 AM PDT by dennisw (***)
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To: Abby4116

Powder..Patch..Ball FIRE!

If the bring it out the same way that they introduced ME and XP with lots of bundle freebies included, I will buy it.


Which One? And what if you buy one that isn't what you need? Or maybe M$ decides to quit supporting the version you bought?


10 posted on 09/12/2005 8:27:55 AM PDT by BallandPowder
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To: BallandPowder

This is the best product that could have ever been released...




for Linux!

Please add me to the tech ping list.
Thanks


11 posted on 09/12/2005 8:28:36 AM PDT by publana
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To: BallandPowder

In before Rusty Turkey and Gore2000!


12 posted on 09/12/2005 8:30:11 AM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: dennisw
CPU: Threading is the main target for Vista. Currently, very little of Windows XP is threaded - the target is to make Vista perform far better on dual-core and multi-core processors.

Good luck to MS on that. This alone may explain why Vista has taken so long.

13 posted on 09/12/2005 8:32:57 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: BallandPowder

In a related story, everyone, by law, is required to buy all seven editions.


14 posted on 09/12/2005 8:36:34 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: BallandPowder
Micro$oft tries to eat EVERYONES lunch with this OS. Great for M$ and consumers get their pooch scr*wed

Or maybe just not buy it?

Luckily, I have an MSDN subscription and get it as part of the package.  I know I wouldn't spend money for yet another upgrade.

15 posted on 09/12/2005 8:37:16 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires.)
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To: BallandPowder
My initial reactions are reserved, because there's just not that much detail available.

But don't let that stop you from rendering an opinion.

16 posted on 09/12/2005 8:41:37 AM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: Revolting cat!

A freinds 30" G5 has a better high definition picture than his HDTV. Mac's seem to play HDTV pretty well.


17 posted on 09/12/2005 8:42:00 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: BallandPowder

OK, I've now made a thorough analysis of the many options, and I've made my decision - WindowsXP Pro.

Wait, I already HAVE WindowsXP Pro, and it's working fine. So, I won't need to buy ANY version of Vista.

Phew, I'm glad that decision's behind me.


18 posted on 09/12/2005 8:42:09 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: BallandPowder

No matter how fast they build a computer, Microsoft will develope a Windows version to eat up all the memory and processor power so that it will run at about the same speed and efficiency as a 286 running DOS.


19 posted on 09/12/2005 8:42:24 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: BallandPowder

This may be the OS that finally drives me to Linux.


20 posted on 09/12/2005 8:47:33 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Have You Forgotten?)
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