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Is This The Palace of King David ? Archeologists Debate New Discovery
Haaretz.com ^ | 9/8/2005 | Ran Shapira

Posted on 09/09/2005 12:19:46 PM PDT by SirLinksalot

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There are skeptics of course, Professor Hani Nur el-Din, a Palestinian archaeologist at Al-Quds University, recently told the New York Times that he and his colleagues considered biblical archaeology to be an effort by Israelis "to fit historical evidence into a biblical context." "The link between the historical evidence and the biblical narration, written much later, is largely missing. There's a kind of fiction about the 10th century. They try to link whatever they find to the biblical narration. They have a button, and they want to make a suit out of it," he says.

The Debate Goes on. But the evidence FOR it being David's Palace from his Jebusite conquest looks quite good.

Also, here is another point of interest in the article...

Dr. Eilat Mazar's children made their own supper that evening. It was about two weeks before the end of the excavation season, and Mazar was heading home with a rare find that had been unearthed that day in one of the structure's rooms: a bulla, a round clay seal about one centimeter in diameter in which its owner's name was inscribed. "The light bulb next to my desk was not working, and I took a flashlight and began to work," she recalls. With the help of a needle and a magnifying glass, she cleaned the grains of dust from the bulla and gradually its inscription was revealed. Late that night she realized that the inscription - three lines in a Hebrew script characteristic of the late First Temple period - contained the name of Yehokal ben Shlamyahu ben Shavi, who is mentioned twice in the Book of Jeremiah.

When Mazar investigated further to see who the owner of the seal was, she let out a cry of surprise: Yehokal ben Shlamyahu was a senior minister in the government of Zedekiah. He is mentioned in Jeremiah 37:3 as one of two emissaries dispatched by King Zedekiah to Jeremiah, asking him to pray for the people during the siege of Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon. Chapter 38 tells that Yehokal was one of four ministers who asked the king to kill Jeremiah, alleging that the prophet was sowing demoralization among the besieged people.

1 posted on 09/09/2005 12:19:50 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

FYI


2 posted on 09/09/2005 12:20:41 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: SirLinksalot

Excellent post.


3 posted on 09/09/2005 12:22:24 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: SirLinksalot

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1457733/posts


4 posted on 09/09/2005 12:30:11 PM PDT by Red Badger (United States Marine Corps.....An army of WON!...........)
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Yehokal ben Shlamyahu ben Shavi

But how does she know it was THAT Yehokal ben Shlamyahu ben Shavi?............

5 posted on 09/09/2005 12:32:33 PM PDT by Red Badger (United States Marine Corps.....An army of WON!...........)
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<<<<
Yehokal ben Shlamyahu ben Shavi
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How many famous Yehokals are there who is the child of Shlamayu and Shavi during that time ?


6 posted on 09/09/2005 12:34:48 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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I give up! I don't know. How many?...........


7 posted on 09/09/2005 12:37:46 PM PDT by Red Badger (United States Marine Corps.....An army of WON!...........)
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To: SirLinksalot

He could have been a local Yehokal.


8 posted on 09/09/2005 12:38:55 PM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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There are skeptics of course, Professor Hani Nur el-Din, a Palestinian archaeologist at Al-Quds University

Well there is a non-biased archaeologist to quote - is a Palestinian all they could find? This find, if true, is HUGE!!!

9 posted on 09/09/2005 12:39:36 PM PDT by Alright_on_the_LeftCoast
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To: SirLinksalot

Amazing -- what a discovery! Really interesting read. Thanks.


10 posted on 09/09/2005 12:42:31 PM PDT by hershey
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Everybody knows that Yehokal ben Shlamyahu ben Shavi is the ancient equivalent of John Smith.


11 posted on 09/09/2005 12:48:50 PM PDT by brewer1516
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<<< He could have been a local Yehokal.>>>

This I admit is possible. But then again, we can determine this by studying the demography and culture of that time.

1) How prevalent is the name Yehokal ?

2) How probable is it that a Yehokal would be the son of people with these names ?

Lets say we have a famous person named George Walker

It would then be like asking how many people who live in a community the size of Crawford have a name of George Walker ( for example ) and father named George Herbert , abd a mother named Barbara.


12 posted on 09/09/2005 12:48:55 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

That was supposed to be a very bad pun


13 posted on 09/09/2005 12:50:52 PM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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It was!

..and it was great! :)


14 posted on 09/09/2005 12:55:33 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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..and it was great! :)

Thanks. It's a very sad thing when your puns are so bad that nobody gets it.

15 posted on 09/09/2005 1:03:50 PM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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Taken from the "Mighty Men" chapter (I Chron 12)

18. Then the spirit came upon Amasai, who was chief of the captains, and he said, Thine are we, David, and on thy side, thou son of Jesse: peace, peace be unto thee, and peace be to thine helpers; for thy God helpeth thee. Then David received them, and made them captains of the band...

32. And of the children of Issachar, which were men that had understanding of the times, to know what Israel ought to do; the heads of them were two hundred; and all their brethren were at their commandment. This passage reflects a choice. Do we follow the prince’s self-claim to the throne, or do we follow God’s chosen king...

37. And on the other side of Jordan, of the Reubenites, and the Gadites, and of the half tribe of Manasseh, with all manner of instruments of war for the battle, an hundred and twenty thousand.

Where are these mighty men today? Who are those who are loyal to the King? Who are those who understand the times and are prepared for battle?

16 posted on 09/09/2005 1:04:22 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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<<<
Thanks. It's a very sad thing when your puns are so bad that nobody gets it.
>>>>

Yikes, I re-read your post and just got it ! I am a little slow and take life too seriously :-)


17 posted on 09/09/2005 1:07:32 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: Jeremiah Jr

18 posted on 09/10/2005 3:29:48 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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I got it. LOL


19 posted on 09/10/2005 3:32:10 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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"Hani Nur el-Din, a Palestinian archaeologist at Al-Quds University"

Hmm. Palestinian -- something that has no historical basis; Al-Quds -- the post-conquest name for a city not founded by "Palestinians".


20 posted on 09/10/2005 4:01:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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