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BREAKING: Not verified....FEMA appropriating police and private security in Houston.
Grapevine ^ | September 2, 2005 | Me

Posted on 09/02/2005 9:53:33 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt

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To: b4its2late
It would make sense. 75,000 people don't move into one city over a 3 or 4 day period normally....

Not that it matters, but it's 25,000 each in Houston, Dallas and San Antonio. Special medical needs persons will go to Ft. Worth. Of course this does not count the folks that evacuated themselves and now have nowhere to return to. Their numbers are about 4 or 5 times the numbers of folks who needed to be evacuated now, because for whatever reason they didn't before the storm hit.

21 posted on 09/02/2005 10:02:54 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: johnb838

From what I hear, Texas is doing more than any other state to help. Thank you.


22 posted on 09/02/2005 10:03:12 AM PDT by gondramB
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To: ContemptofCourt

What NO police? Once the donut shops were evacuated they were long gone. Say what you want about NYC, the cops and firefighters there would be swarming all over NO taking care of business.


23 posted on 09/02/2005 10:03:12 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: ContemptofCourt

How long is this going to last. They can't keep it up forever. These people need to be disbursed across the country. Give them a choice of where to go.


24 posted on 09/02/2005 10:03:24 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: ContemptofCourt

Steve Harrigan (FoxNews) is reporting a convoy of armed NG and police vehicles going into central N. O. to counter the domestic terrorists who have laid seige to parts of the city.

Geraldo confirming similar at his location.


25 posted on 09/02/2005 10:04:41 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ContemptofCourt

11,000 to Reliant

http://www.kxan.com/Global/story.asp?S=3799359&nav=0s3de4bp


26 posted on 09/02/2005 10:04:55 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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I've heard that DARPA has appropriated all Hooter's waitresses.

27 posted on 09/02/2005 10:04:55 AM PDT by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: ContemptofCourt

I heard the Governor say that the people would be free to come and go. HMMMMM


28 posted on 09/02/2005 10:05:00 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: gondramB

We're connected somehow to N.O., not that we wouldn't do it for anyone else, but they're the next city over, we're both very low, but for the grace of God it could be us, we love the food, the culture, the music, people move back and forth a lot, both deep down very blue collar... We're sister cities in the most meaningful sense of the word.


29 posted on 09/02/2005 10:06:24 AM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for Gods Grace to be manifest on the Gulf Coast especially in New Orleans.)
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To: Sloth

The private security firms had to get there liscence to operate from some government.


30 posted on 09/02/2005 10:07:01 AM PDT by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany it now is: Question Everything)
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To: over3Owithabrain

The N.O. Police remind me of a conquered army. Change out of your uniform and throw it in the street so nobody knows you were a cop, then hide in the mob. Keep your sidearm in case you need it and get the hell out. Every man for himself.


31 posted on 09/02/2005 10:08:17 AM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for Gods Grace to be manifest on the Gulf Coast especially in New Orleans.)
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To: ContemptofCourt
I guess we wonder how you knew,
'bout the plans they have for boys in blue...
You heard it through the grapevine....

32 posted on 09/02/2005 10:08:56 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: ContemptofCourt

This wholesale use of the term refugees has changed the character of the situation to such a degree as to fully politicize it; these people are not refugees, they are simply evacuees whose homes have been rendered temporarily unusable.

We lose the battle as soon as the terms of engagement are coopted and yet all we do is wail.


33 posted on 09/02/2005 10:09:02 AM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Where the hell is Rudy??


34 posted on 09/02/2005 10:09:43 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: mariabush

They aren't in prison, we can't really stop them... I suppose we could but... don't worry, be happy it twill be allright.


35 posted on 09/02/2005 10:09:53 AM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for Gods Grace to be manifest on the Gulf Coast especially in New Orleans.)
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To: Sloth
I wonder what authority FEMA would have over private security firms.

Same as they have over any private business or property. Since they were originally chartered to deal with the aftereffects of a nuclear war, they have pretty broad powers in their enabling legislation. Whether those powers are Constitutional has never been tested AFAIK, maybe they will be now.

36 posted on 09/02/2005 10:11:31 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: Old Professer
This wholesale use of the term refugees has changed the character of the situation to such a degree as to fully politicize it; these people are not refugees, they are simply evacuees whose homes have been rendered temporarily unusable.

Many, even most homes are not merely temporarily unusable, but completely gone. New Orleans may be have to be bulldozed over before it is rebuilt, if it is rebuilt. Some coastal town in Miss. were wiped off the map. Many of these people may end having to build a new life elsewhere, so refugee fits.

37 posted on 09/02/2005 10:15:33 AM PDT by LWalk18
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To: LWalk18
Definition of Refugee from

the Immigration and Nationality Act

The Immigration and Nationality Act defines "refugee" in Sec. 101(a)(42) as:

(A) any person who is outside any country of such person's nationality or, in the case of a person having no nationality, is outside any country in which such person last habitually resided, and who is unable or unwilling to return to, and is unable or unwilling to avail himself or herself of the protection of, that country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, or

(B) in such circumstances as the President after appropriate consultation (as defined in section 207(e) of this Act) may specify, any person who is within the country of such person's nationality or, in the case of a person having no nationality, within the country in which such person is habitually residing, and who is persecuted or who has a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. The term "refugee" does not include any person who ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in the persecution of any person on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. For purposes of determinations under this Act, a person who has been forced to abort a pregnancy or to undergo involuntary sterilization, or who has been persecuted for failure or refusal to undergo such a procedure or for other resistance to a coercive population control program, shall be deemed to have been persecuted on account of political opinion, and a person who has a well founded fear that he or she will be forced to undergo such a procedure or subject to persecution for such failure, refusal, or resistance shall be deemed to have a well founded fear of persecution on account of political opinion

38 posted on 09/02/2005 10:22:11 AM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: OldFriend
Would it be too much to ask that your breathless breaking NOT news wait for confirmation

breaking REALLY NOT news ;) ROFLMAO (so true!)

39 posted on 09/02/2005 10:31:30 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: ContemptofCourt

Interesting. Yet, FEMA asked my county(Loudoun, VA) for police help, and after they got 22 officers and multiple vehicles filled with aid, FEMA told them NOT to go. Apparently, if you are helping FEMA out, you need a special FEMA number for insurance? pay? etc... FEMA refuses to give Loudoun County this number so they could go help.

In fact, they waited for two days, and finally started driving down yesterday, and along the way FEMA called and said for them to turn around and go home.

In a situation where on-site help is desperately needed, FEMA is telling the media one thing, but actuallt doing something completely different.


40 posted on 09/02/2005 10:35:16 AM PDT by SengirV
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