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German, Polish Leaders Mark Start of WWII
Las Vegas Sun ^ | Sep 1, 2005 | RYAN LUCAS

Posted on 09/01/2005 11:38:49 AM PDT by lizol

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To: lizol

This is correct. I first heard her name here on Freerepublic, mentioned by a Polish FReeper.


21 posted on 09/02/2005 12:43:20 AM PDT by Michael81Dus (Venimus adorare eum - Immanuel, Gott ist mit uns!!)
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To: Lukasz

"How big influence has Putin on German voters?"

Zero. :)


22 posted on 09/02/2005 12:43:44 AM PDT by Michael81Dus (Venimus adorare eum - Immanuel, Gott ist mit uns!!)
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To: Michael81Dus; Lukasz; lizol; wolf78

Michael gave us a really good overview about the role of the Bundespräsident in the German Constitution. But you need a littlebit more information to get the full picture. Since Michael and Wolf on one side and me on the other have different perceptions about the seriousness of our "Grundgesetz" (Constitution), they will probably stone me to death if I tell you, that a quite common expression of critical Germans in acquisition of the "Bundespräsident" is:

Grüßaugust (Greeting August).

To explain the term: "Greeting" from greeting the troops and the funny "August" is a traditional clown in the German circus.

;-))

To be fair it must be said, that the predecessor of Horst Köhler, Mr. Johannes Rau ("Kahn von Gutmenschistan" - Khan of the caliphate of the do-gooders), damaged the office of the Bundespräsident through his insufferable dullness. He was (and still is) famous for the most political correct, lutheran and boring blah blah! Therefore Köhler has a really hard job to do in earning the respect again, that the office of the Bundespräsident deserves, because many non-German friends had to listen to Raus dorky effusions during the previous years. Since I also have been forced to listen to him for more than one hour I know what torture means. I would prefer Abu Grahib to any official banquet together with our former president.

Anyway Köhler is a good man, a real friend of the Poles and he does everything that he can do.



P.S.

Someting funny: Only one of the forerunners of Rau was even more destructive to German foreign policy: When the German Bundespräsident Lübke visited Liberia in 1962, he started a speech with: Dear Ladies and gentlemen, dear negroes...

:-)


23 posted on 09/02/2005 6:09:37 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

No. That Lübke quote is an urban legend.


24 posted on 09/02/2005 6:18:47 AM PDT by Michael81Dus (Wir wählen CDU, CDU, wähl auch du CDU, ich weiß jetzt schon was ich tu, was denn sonst - CDU!!)
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To: Michael81Dus; wolf78

You said:

"...This is correct. I first heard her name here on Freerepublic, mentioned by a Polish FReeper..."




Sorry, but this is a shame. Steinbach is well known inside the politicallly informed German circles although she has no real political influence. I would estimate that maybe 20% of the German population know her.

Anyway it is quite probable, that the center of the expelled will be buildt, since Steinbach and her association are the core of the CDU. Angela Merkel is supporting the center because she wants to win elections. This will lead to some confusion within the Polish-German relations, but we all will survive it.


25 posted on 09/02/2005 6:39:50 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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No. That Lübke quote is an urban legend.

Have you been in Liberia in that time?

26 posted on 09/02/2005 6:45:40 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

Can you name ONE person who actually heard President Lübke saying that?


27 posted on 09/02/2005 9:42:53 AM PDT by Michael81Dus (Wir wählen CDU, CDU, wähl auch du CDU, ich weiß jetzt schon was ich tu, was denn sonst - CDU!!)
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