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Russia offers help to U.S. after deadly hurricane
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Posted on 08/30/2005 6:33:30 PM PDT by jmc1969

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To: Drammach
USSR... ( Union of Soviet Socialist Republcs )

Ummmmm...you're right, I apologize. But then why were they always referred to as commies? Not being smart, just asking. Also, hasn't it always been said, the fall of communist Russia?

Either way, Socialism is the stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between Capitalism and Communism.

81 posted on 08/30/2005 8:30:36 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem !)
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To: daybreakcoming

...the people of Iran are wonderful

I don't know that firsthand, only what I have read and now what you have said. I hope this is so. I was surprised at it being an "official statement".

I was surprised too... I don't know what to make of that part either.

82 posted on 08/30/2005 8:34:11 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: danmar
Ditto here, Putin , despite all odds between our countries, showed more class and my hat is off to him.

Where are the French, Germans, MEXICANS and all the other so called "friends" in time of need. Canadians,...anybody out there?!

You're right. He showed class and where are the Mexicans?

83 posted on 08/30/2005 8:37:30 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: OldFriend
I'll second your thanks to Putin. I believe Japan has offered oil from their reserves to help with the shortfall until our refineries are back online.

Japan's been a loyal and worthy friend. I'm happy they're there for us...

84 posted on 08/30/2005 8:39:55 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ
You're right. He showed class and where are the Mexicans?

The deafening sound coming from the Mexican border showes the hypocrisy of the Mexican Government.

Hey, Fox what about us?
We need a little help...

85 posted on 08/30/2005 9:00:45 PM PDT by danmar ("No person is so grand or wise or perfect as to be the master of another person." Karl Hess)
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To: Justanobody
But then why were they always referred to as commies?

More labels than anything else, as I understand it, and that's been many years ago..

Actually, Russians were probably more communistic in practice than socialistic..
But Russia was a "Socialist Dictatorship", i.e., Stalinist, not strictly socialist.. Lenin and Stalin "hijacked" the worker's revolution..
The workers never got their shot at a socialist economy..
"From each according to ability to each according to need"... ( Economics = Socialism )
That would have required a greater involvement of the people in government.. Something Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky did not plan on happening.. ( At least Lenin and Stalin )

China, on the other hand, was strictly Marxist communism.. with Mao tse Tsung as the charismatic leader..
China still makes a great show of "the people's" representation in government, but even today chinese government tends to isolationism and government controlled indoctrination..
State policy is all.. the worker is nothing but a means to an end.. ( Communism = Political )

Others with more knowledge in this field may be able to explain it better..

86 posted on 08/30/2005 9:01:26 PM PDT by Drammach ( I AmThe Sultan of Oom Pa Pa Mow Mow.. Heed My Words..)
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To: CJ Wolf

"Thanks Russia, Still don't trust you though."

ditto


87 posted on 08/30/2005 9:02:44 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (Praying for those hurt by Hurricane Katrina)
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To: Drammach
Others with more knowledge in this field may be able to explain it better..

I think you did a fine job. A while back I began a study of the the differences. I got side tracked and never completed it. This "conversation" may renew my interest.

Lenin and Stalin "hijacked" the worker's revolution..

I think there is a lot of hijacking going on in our own country. Words, suddenly mean things they never meant before. Thank you for your enlightening (another word that has been hijacked, IMO) responses.

88 posted on 08/30/2005 9:13:53 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem !)
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To: Paladin2

If holland had a tidal wave or hurricane there levies would be equally insufficiant.


89 posted on 08/31/2005 2:39:45 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: jmc1969

Cpaceba, gospodeen Pyuten. Amerika est horoshaya.

(Thank-you Mr. Putin. America is good.)...but rusty on my grammar.
I think many nations will express their condolences but few will contribute heavy financial assistance. But I've been wrong many times before.


90 posted on 08/31/2005 2:55:27 AM PDT by Mustng959 (Peace.....Through Superior Firepower)
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To: jmc1969

What are the Saudis sending (other than bills for their high-priced oil)?


91 posted on 08/31/2005 2:58:51 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: don-o

Putin is an autocrat who heads an increasingly nationalistic and xenophobic administration. We should be deeply concerned at where Russia is headed and be deeply worried about the motives of its sinister leader. Putin is no friend of the United States.


92 posted on 08/31/2005 3:30:34 AM PDT by propertius
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To: GOPJ

Nonsense. It is merely an attempt to lessen the embarrassment from the recent mini-sub debacle.


93 posted on 08/31/2005 3:31:44 AM PDT by propertius
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To: 359Henrie
**crickets chirping**

I assume you meant SE Asia?

**crickets chirping**

94 posted on 08/31/2005 4:23:54 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Cobra64

Picture me shaking the envelope looking for cash.


95 posted on 08/31/2005 4:26:47 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: propertius
It is merely an attempt to lessen the embarrassment...

How would offering to help us affect that?

96 posted on 08/31/2005 8:26:00 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: jmc1969

Russia sends an airplane of the Ministry of Emergency Measuares with saviors & halicopters on board to New Orlean to rescue some tens citizens of Russia taking place in one of the hotel of the city


97 posted on 08/31/2005 9:13:41 AM PDT by iva
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To: COEXERJ145
You're right, he was.

Putin was also the first foreign leader to call President Bush on Sept. 11th.

98 posted on 08/31/2005 10:24:46 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: bnelson44

I have seen one comment in a German newspaper. Full of compassion....

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,372179,00.html

gotta love dem Germans.


99 posted on 09/01/2005 1:34:41 AM PDT by htiek7734
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To: GOPJ

by showing that Russia has the capacity (allegedly) to help Western countries in times of crises rather than just relyingon them when something goes wrong in Russia. Putin's offer was largely made for domestic consumption -- to show its credulous people that America needs Russia and can't deal with a disaster by itself. That would then "lessen Russia's embarrassment" at having to have the Brits and the Americans pull the minisub from the ocean floor.


100 posted on 09/01/2005 4:12:44 AM PDT by propertius
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