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Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Various ^ | 30 August 2005 | Various

Posted on 08/30/2005 1:34:04 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: advance_copy
The Army Corps of Engineers now says that the water in the city is level with the water in the lake. No more rising waters expected in New Orleans. They are bringing in 12,000 sandbags that weigh 20,000 lbs. to plug the leaks in the levees.

Something about this plan bothers me. I am not engineer but my gut tells me that this could make it worse. I think that the expectation of unintended consequences is not unreasonable. The river is dynamic, not static. Anyway, like I said, I am not an engineer so nuff said.

5,201 posted on 08/31/2005 10:33:01 AM PDT by Pete
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To: AnAmericanMother

Well, if the sandbags and slings had been near the pumping station like they were supposed to be, the Corps might have been able to deal with this yesterday. :-P


5,202 posted on 08/31/2005 10:33:19 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: advance_copy
CORRECTION: 1,200 sandbags that weigh 20,000 lbs each.

Dunno how fast they can move them. At 1 helicopter load every minute, I'd guess 24 hours to put them in place.

5,203 posted on 08/31/2005 10:33:46 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: steveegg

But what will they DO there? Certainly they aren't going to try to make them stay inside, are they?


5,204 posted on 08/31/2005 10:33:46 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: r9etb

I know what you mean. I lived in NO, worked there, spent years teaching remedial reading and writing to adults, and there are many great people there, poor as well as rich, but there are far too many predators and would be predators. And they are showing their colors.


5,205 posted on 08/31/2005 10:33:57 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: beyond the sea

Absolutly GREAT.
Now is time for all of us "Armchair Hydrologists and Engineers" to sit back and watch the truly professionals do their thing.


5,206 posted on 08/31/2005 10:34:10 AM PDT by 76834 (There's nothing wrong with sobriety in moderation.)
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To: beyond the sea

Not to be flippant about it, but its showing nothing. The reporter talking to the reported in the copter said the whole area just looks like a bunch of sticks. And its in at least a mile if not more.


5,207 posted on 08/31/2005 10:34:13 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: Pete


they are plugging a wall at the canal, thus the lake. not the river.


5,208 posted on 08/31/2005 10:34:45 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: steveegg

Still immensely better than the alternative.


5,209 posted on 08/31/2005 10:34:53 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Howlin

That was my question. Either the refugees will be wandering the streets of Houston, or they will be imprisoned in the dome. Neither one sounds like a real good deal to me.


5,210 posted on 08/31/2005 10:35:06 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: MNlurker

Seems as though reports of "tsunami" about the surge were quite accurate.


5,211 posted on 08/31/2005 10:35:21 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: bwteim

Here is a sister's report from her brother who was dispatched to Gulfport 2 days ago.

Just an update. We finally heard from Steve. He's tired & hungry. He didn't get to eat yesterday and hadn't eaten as of 6:00 this evening. He said there's no time as there's just so much to do. They were going to stop & eat within the hour. There are no hotels for them there, they're sleeping on the sidewalk. He said that he had tagged 40 bodies today. He seemed to think that the media was holding back on the death toll big time. I truly hope they have some sort of counseling for these search & rescue guys after this is all over with.

Tomorrow's mission for them is to go from basement to attic in every standing home, business, shed, etc. and pull out bodies


5,212 posted on 08/31/2005 10:35:52 AM PDT by freebird5850 ("Tell the truth, there's less to remember!")
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To: r9etb

If Waveland's gone, so is Pass Christian.


5,213 posted on 08/31/2005 10:36:30 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: freebird5850

thanks for that information.


5,214 posted on 08/31/2005 10:36:43 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Howlin
But what will they DO there? Certainly they aren't going to try to make them stay inside, are they?

Dunno, and it would be stupid to make then stay inside. Just about anything would be an improvement from the SuperDome in its current condition, though.

5,215 posted on 08/31/2005 10:36:46 AM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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To: bwteim
they are plugging a wall at the canal, thus the lake. not the river.

You are, of course, correct. In my mind, I was referring to the flowing of the water between the canal and the city as a river - obviously I did not make that clear.

5,216 posted on 08/31/2005 10:37:01 AM PDT by Pete
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To: All

Looters are taking cloths, Nikes, and Televisions....


5,217 posted on 08/31/2005 10:37:14 AM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: freebird5850
Tomorrow's mission for them is to go from basement to attic in every standing home, business, shed, etc. and pull out bodies

Won't that take weeks?

5,218 posted on 08/31/2005 10:37:20 AM PDT by Fawn (Being a FREE COUNTRY doesn't mean EVERYTHING'S FOR FREE!!!!!!!)
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To: BurbankKarl

"via SATERN"

BurbankKarl, how much traffic are you hearing? Is this on the 14.265 frequency? or on VHF?

I was trying to listen to some of the frequencies listed on the ARRL site, but did not hear anything.


5,219 posted on 08/31/2005 10:37:36 AM PDT by jbstrick (insert clever tagline here)
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To: Howlin

I think Gov. Perry said that the Astrodome would be temporary and that he would be trying to find more semi-permanent places for them...

At least at the Astrodome they can go outside...and Astroworld is within walking distance...maybe they will open up and give the people (especially kids) can go free and have some fun, at least for a few hours...and food, and drinks...I know I would do that if I owned it.


5,220 posted on 08/31/2005 10:37:55 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Arlington Texas --- Next home of the Dallas Cowboys...going more broke every second.)
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