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1 posted on 08/25/2005 11:24:27 PM PDT by Siobhan
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2 posted on 08/25/2005 11:25:34 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: Siobhan

Filthy lying baby-killing scum!


3 posted on 08/25/2005 11:27:44 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Siobhan
Sick, disgusting low-lifes. It's so sad that they want women to have abortions so badly that they'll lie and say a fetus can't feel pain. Like they really care if it does. When are people going to wake up and realize that abortion is the greatest tragedy in the nation today?
4 posted on 08/25/2005 11:29:21 PM PDT by bushinohio
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To: NYer; Salvation; Lady In Blue; eastsider; livius; patent; ninenot; AnAmericanMother; Desdemona; ...
The lead author of the bogus report, UCSF medical student Susan J. Lee, is also a lawyer. Before entering medical school, she worked as a lawyer for the domestic terrorist organization National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League (NARAL). Another author, Eleanor Drey, is medical director of one of San Francisco's largest abortion facilities.

Important info. on the author's of the false fetal pain study.

5 posted on 08/25/2005 11:29:53 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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6 posted on 08/25/2005 11:31:16 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: Siobhan

And just like Cindy Sheehan and every other anti-war, anti-American, anti-life, anti-Christian person or organization, the mass media trip over themselves getting the lies out to the public and lending credibility to them.


8 posted on 08/25/2005 11:48:40 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: Siobhan
Before entering medical school, she worked as a lawyer for the domestic terrorist organization National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League (NARAL). Another author, Eleanor Drey, is medical director of one of San Francisco's largest abortion facilities.

Good for USA Today for disclosing this hidden bias! Wow!

S-l-o-w-l-y these major news outlets are rediscovering their role in life: to investigate matters and report the truth, NOT fabricate an agenda PRAVDA-style.

Alternative news outlets be praised for driving the major news outlets to stories like this. Disclosing this horrendous bias must gall the goose-stepping liberal editors terribly.

9 posted on 08/26/2005 12:55:53 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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13 posted on 08/26/2005 2:56:24 AM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: Siobhan

Evil's troops march boldly about the planet in the sure knowledge that Liberalism has corrupted the nation into blindness to Evil.


14 posted on 08/26/2005 3:48:06 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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Now JAMA has the same credibility as the NYT...none. The editor should be fired for passing off this biased report as medical science.


15 posted on 08/26/2005 3:51:15 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Siobhan

I had wondered about this. In the face of a whole lot of contrary evidence, it just seemed too pat. Thanks for confirming it.


16 posted on 08/26/2005 4:54:08 AM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: Siobhan
Link: USA Today

Just in case someone wanted to read the full USA Today article.

17 posted on 08/26/2005 4:58:53 AM PDT by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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Since when does the Journal of the American Medical Association publish papers lead-authored by med students?
25 posted on 08/26/2005 5:03:50 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: Siobhan

On ABC Evening News tonight, 8/26, Sub. anchor Terry Moran said that he wanted to add some additional information on a story they had reported that the fetus does not feel pain until 29 weeks. He said the authors of the report, one worked for a pro-abortion group and the other had run an abortion Clinic. He said they had responded that the report was still accurate. Moran sounded like he doubted it.

I WAS SHOCKED AT ABC FOR CORRECTING THIS BOGUS PROPAGANDA REPORT.


33 posted on 08/26/2005 5:23:38 PM PDT by nightowl
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To: Siobhan
"given worldwide coverage by The Associated Press,"

As usual with liberal propaganda, the discrediting will get far less interest, and this study will be cited ad nauseum until it is taken as fact.

36 posted on 08/26/2005 8:24:12 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Siobhan

BUMP!

The Philadelphia Inquirer, of all places, had a story about this.
This "fetal pain" report has zero credibility. It is left to be seen if the JAMA cares a rat's behind about its own credibility and reputation. That publication claimed that they were unaware of the backgrounds of some of the authors and that they "would have disclosed" those obvious conflicts of interest if they had known about them.

So let's see what they do now.


39 posted on 08/27/2005 11:04:56 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Catholic Defends article on fetal pain

Medical journal editor flooded with protests
Friday, August 26, 2005
BY LINDSEY TANNER
Associated Press

CHICAGO -- Catherine DeAngelis is a staunch Roman Catholic, used to give Holy Communion to her patients and says she strongly opposes abortion.

So the Journal of the American Medical Association's editor in chief says she had to take a walk around the block after receiving dozens of "horrible, vindictive" e-mails condemning her for publishing an article that says fetuses likely don't feel pain until late pregnancy.

"One woman said she would pray for my soul," DeAngelis said yesterday. "I could use all the prayers I can get."

DeAngelis ticked off a list of other nasty e-mails she received: "Your license should be stripped. "You should get a real job." "Eternity will definitely bring justice for you."

The article in Wednesday's JAMA prompted especially harsh letters from abortion foes because one of the five authors is a University of California, San Francisco obstetrician who works at an abortion clinic. A second author -- a UCSF medical student and lawyer -- once did legal work for the NARAL Pro-Choice America advocacy group.

Critics, including the National Right to Life Committee, said the article was a politically motivated attack on proposed federal legislation dealing with fetal pain. The legislation would require doctors to provide fetal pain information to women seeking abortions when fetuses are at least 20 weeks old, and to offer women fetal anesthesia at that stage of the pregnancy. A handful of states have enacted similar measures.

DeAngelis said JAMA will publish properly submitted critics' comments in an upcoming edition and will give the authors a chance to respond. But she stood by her decision to publish the article.

"There's nothing wrong with this article," DeAngelis said. "This is not original research. This is a review article," based on data in dozens of medical articles by other researchers.

The article did not mention the two researchers' ties to the abortion clinic and the advocacy group. But the connections were later reported by news organizations.

DeAngelis said the obstetrician's experience is not a conflict because performing abortions is often part of that job. She said she would have published the medical student's NARAL connection as a potential conflict of interest had she known about it in advance, but that not mentioning it does not mean that the article or journal are biased.

"If there weren't four other authors and this wasn't a peer-reviewed journal, I'd worry ... but I don't," she said.

Doctor Mark Rosen, the review's senior author, is a University of California-San Francisco anesthesiologist and fetal surgery pioneer. He called the article an objective review of medical literature.

Doctor Philip Darney, a UCSF obstetrics-gynecology professor who is the obstetrician's boss, said the article represents "thoughtful and thorough scholarship. No conflicts of interests were present in conducting this work and no affiliations nor clinical practice information were withheld inappropriately."

DeAngelis said she attends Mass at least weekly and also is a Eucharistic minister, which allows her to administer Communion to fellow Catholics. She said that while she opposes abortion, she also supports a woman's right to choose.

She said she attempts to set aside her personal biases in her role as editor of a reputable medical journal and that researchers who seek to publish in JAMA are expected to do the same.

Jerome Kassirer, a former New England Journal of Medicine editor and vocal critic of doctors' conflicts of interest, said he experienced a similar outcry in the 1990s when his journal published research concluding that a so-called abortion pill was safe and effective.


40 posted on 09/11/2005 1:41:52 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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