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Troops' Gravestones Have Pentagon Slogans
AP via MyWay News ^ | August 23, 2005 | David Pace

Posted on 08/23/2005 1:24:38 PM PDT by bin2baghdad

ARLINGTON, Va. (AP) - Unlike earlier wars, nearly all Arlington National Cemetery gravestones for troops killed in Iraq or Afghanistan are inscribed with the slogan-like operation names the Pentagon selected to promote public support for the conflicts.

Families of fallen soldiers and Marines are being told they have the option to have the government-furnished headstones engraved with "Operation Enduring Freedom" or "Operation Iraqi Freedom" at no extra charge, whether they are buried in Arlington or elsewhere. A mock-up shown to many families includes the operation names.

The vast majority of military gravestones from other eras are inscribed with just the basic, required information: name, rank, military branch, date of death and, if applicable, the war and foreign country in which the person served.

Families are supposed to have final approval over what goes on the tombstones. That hasn't always happened.

Nadia and Robert McCaffrey, whose son Patrick was killed in Iraq in June 2004, said "Operation Iraqi Freedom" ended up on his government-supplied headstone in Oceanside, Calif., without family approval.

"I was a little taken aback," Robert McCaffrey said, describing his reaction when he first saw the operation name on Patrick's tombstone. "They certainly didn't ask my wife; they didn't ask me." He said Patrick's widow told him she had not been asked either.

"In one way, I feel it's taking advantage to a small degree," McCaffrey said. "Patrick did not want to be there, that is a definite fact."

The owner of the company that has been making gravestones for Arlington and other national cemeteries for nearly two decades is uncomfortable, too.

"It just seems a little brazen that that's put on stones," said Jeff Martell, owner of Granite Industries of Vermont. "It seems like it might be connected to politics."

The Department of Veterans Affairs says it isn't. "The headstone is not a PR purpose. It is to let the country know and the people that visit the cemetery know who served this country and made the country free for us," VA official Steve Muro said.

Since 1997, the government has been paying for virtually everything inscribed on the gravestones. Before that, families had to pay the gravestone makers separately for any inscription beyond the basics.

It wasn't until the invasion of Iraq in March 2003 that the department instructed national cemetery directors and funeral homes across the country to advise families of fallen soldiers and Marines that they could have operation names like "Enduring Freedom" or "Iraqi Freedom" included on the headstones.

VA officials say neither the Pentagon nor White House exerted any pressure to get families to include the operation names. They say families always had the option of including information like battle or operation names, but didn't always know it.

"It's just the right thing to do and it always has been, but it hasn't always been followed," said Dave Schettler, director of the VA's memorial programs service.

VA officials say they don't know how many families of the nearly 2,000 soldiers and Marines who have died in Iraq or Afghanistan have opted to include the operation names.

At Arlington, the nation's most prestigious national cemetery, all but a few of the 193 gravestones of Iraq and Afghanistan dead carry the operation names. War casualties are also buried in many of the 121 other national cemeteries and numerous state and private graveyards.

The interment service supervisor at Arlington, Vicki Tanner, said cemetery representatives show families a mock-up of the headstone with "Operation Iraqi Freedom" or "Operation Enduring Freedom" already included, and ask their approval.

Former Sen. Max Cleland, D-Ga., who lost both legs and an arm in Vietnam and headed the Veterans Administration under President Carter, called the practice "a little bit of glorified advertising."

"I think it's a little bit of gilding the lily," Cleland said, while insisting that he's not criticizing families who want that information included.

"Most of the headstones out there at Arlington and around the nation just say World War II or Korea or Vietnam, one simple statement," he said. "It's not, shall we say, a designated theme or a designated operation by somebody in the Pentagon. It is what it is. And I think there's power in simplicity."

The Pentagon in the late 1980s began selecting operation names with themes that would help generate public support for conflicts.

Gregory C. Sieminski, an Army officer writing in a 1995 Army War College publication, said the Pentagon decision to call the 1989 invasion of Panama "Operation Just Cause" initiated a trend of naming operations "with an eye toward shaping domestic and international perceptions about the activities they describe."

Mainline veterans groups are taking the change in stride. American Legion spokesman Donald Mooney said the organization hasn't heard any complaints from its members.

"I'm concerned that we do what the families want," said Bob Wallace, executive director of Veterans of Foreign Wars. "I don't think there's any critical motivation behind this."


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Sigh --- and this is news, why? And it's significantly different than what has been done before, how?

I guess they could put "Global War on Terrorism" on the stones, but nobody I know really likes that title. We could call it WW IV, but there are political problems with that, too.

People who were there routinely say, "I was in OIF" or "I was in OEF". I had no idea that somebody would think that putting this on the headstone of the fallen was some sort of political conspiracy. Since very few people ever see the headstone of the fallen, it's probably not very effective propaganda.

But .. If I ever fall in the service of my country, I sure would want those who pass by my final resting place to know what I did for them.

1 posted on 08/23/2005 1:24:38 PM PDT by bin2baghdad
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To: bin2baghdad

Was World War II really World War II? Roman wars, the French-Indian War, the Spanish American War and even the American Revolution were World Wars also...


2 posted on 08/23/2005 1:26:42 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: bin2baghdad

Don't worry about it. They found one guy in Oceanside. He is just one of the 60's style hippies living there. They probable interviewed him right before he went to Camp Cindyloon!


3 posted on 08/23/2005 1:30:33 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (Let's Roll----- Get out of the way Cindy!)
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To: bin2baghdad

These heros died in combat zones serving their nation. Anyone who would question putting the operation name on these markers is just plain ignorant.


4 posted on 08/23/2005 1:31:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: 2banana

These people think that 'WWII' is just a "slogan" I guess.

SHEESH!


5 posted on 08/23/2005 1:32:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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My late friend, Capt. Jamie Edge, has "Operation Iraqi Freedom" on his tombstone in Arlington. God bless him for his service and sacrifce for us.


6 posted on 08/23/2005 1:32:45 PM PDT by VA_Gentleman
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To: bin2baghdad
"In one way, I feel it's taking advantage to a small degree," McCaffrey said. "Patrick did not want to be there, that is a definite fact."

Next thing you know McCaffrey will say that Patrick was drafted...

7 posted on 08/23/2005 1:32:54 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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This doesn't make sense. The stones at Arlington have always stated the war the person served in. We just don't have a name for this one so to speak, so the name of the operation makes sense to me. I also know for a fact that you pre approve the headstone.


8 posted on 08/23/2005 1:33:06 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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File in the "You got to be kidding me" folder.


9 posted on 08/23/2005 1:35:00 PM PDT by JimWforBush (Alcohol - For the best times you'll never remember)
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To: bin2baghdad
Families of fallen soldiers and Marines are being told they have the option to have the government-furnished headstones engraved with "Operation Enduring Freedom" or "Operation Iraqi Freedom" at no extra charge

'Nuff said.

10 posted on 08/23/2005 1:41:56 PM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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I thought is was very suspicous that the gravestones of those killed fighting in France in 1918 said World War I. I mean, who knew there was going to be a World War II?
11 posted on 08/23/2005 1:43:58 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Lonesome's First Law: Whenever anyone says it's not about the money, it's about the money.)
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That is odd - I always thought WWI was called 'The Great War' up until 1939-1945


12 posted on 08/23/2005 1:49:13 PM PDT by toadthesecond
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Yeah, that's the point.


13 posted on 08/23/2005 1:51:18 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Lonesome's First Law: Whenever anyone says it's not about the money, it's about the money.)
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It really depends when such stones or monuments were put up. Most monuments to the first war that I have seen that were built in the intervening years refer only to the "Great war in Europe" or to "The World War" usually followed by the date 1914 to 1918. Monuments to the first war built after WWII refer to WWI.



14 posted on 08/23/2005 1:53:22 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: bin2baghdad

It's not a slogan, it's the name of the campaign.

Sheesh.


15 posted on 08/23/2005 1:59:18 PM PDT by wingnutx (tanstaafl)
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Amen to that.

On another note, why are the parents of this fallen soldier featured in the story, and his wife barely gets a few words of mention? Since the soldier was married, would not his wife be the ones to make the arrangements, including having him buried at Arlington and whether or not to accept the free government headstone? Why on earth are the parents complaining that THEY weren't consulted about their son's marker? (They should be proud of their son. But I guess everyone is too busy elbowing each other out of the way trying to get that 15 minutes of fame. Sigh.)

16 posted on 08/23/2005 2:06:35 PM PDT by shezza (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: bin2baghdad

I told my wife to make sure my headstone has my full name and rank, with no abbreviations, and Persian Gulf enscribed on it.


17 posted on 08/23/2005 2:09:25 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: bin2baghdad

Please. Maybe the son chose ahead of time what he would want on his gravestone if he died in combat.

I would think most vets would want to have the name of the war they died in on their gravestone---or even if they didn't die in the war. The gravestones at Arlington state which wars they fought in and, sorry, but the "Operation" name is the name of this war.

The people whom this would offend are not the people who visit Arlington National Cemetary, nor should they visit there.


18 posted on 08/23/2005 2:11:58 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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"It just seems a little brazen that that's put on stones," said Jeff Martell, owner of Granite Industries of Vermont. "It seems like it might be connected to politics."

Do we not have someone else in this country who owns a granite business?

Memo to Jeff Martell: SHUT UP.

Golly. He should be freeped.

19 posted on 08/23/2005 2:13:27 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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"It just seems a little brazen that that's put on stones," said Jeff Martell, owner of Granite Industries of Vermont. "It seems like it might be connected to politics."

Isn’t every war we have had connected to politics?
20 posted on 08/23/2005 2:15:33 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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