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To: Niks

I hope, but I have little faith, that this investigation will stop being about who is to blame and (conversely) protection of political position. The Democrats have thrived on idiotic claims like'Bush Knew', and many Republicans want nothing more than an excuse to bury the Clintons. The result has been a particsan political battle that is not properly focused.

This should be about:
(1)An honest assessment of what went wrong, and
(2)how do we avoid those same mistakes in the future?

It seems that all the radio talk shows, and most of the posts here on FR, want to focus on blaming Gorelick and Clinton and Reno. All people whom I think should be properly ashamed of themselves, but finding someone to blame is not going to bring back the lost souls of 9-11.

Identify REAL problems, and FIX them - that is the debt we owe the dead.


14 posted on 08/23/2005 9:02:29 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: BlueNgold
Identify REAL problems, and FIX them - that is the debt we owe the dead.

While problems with information/intelligence sharing between FBI, CIA, and military intelligence go way back, to the very founding of each organization in fact, the immediate real problem may lie in policies of the previous administration. Identifying those problems will by necessity associate them with their authors.

Some or all of them may have already been fixed, but knowing that also awaits their identification.

If politics and politicians caused the problem, there is know way to find and fix the problem without also placing blame, but the blame placing will be a side effect of the process not the primary goal.

That said, putting a few policy makers in jail might encourage others to perform better in the future, and merely identifying the miscreants would help the voters to focus on never allowing them, or their ilk, in such positions again.

18 posted on 08/23/2005 9:21:17 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: BlueNgold
It seems that all the radio talk shows, and most of the posts here on FR, want to focus on blaming Gorelick and Clinton and Reno. All people whom I think should be properly ashamed of themselves, but finding someone to blame is not going to bring back the lost souls of 9-11.

Identify REAL problems, and FIX them - that is the debt we owe the dead.


It seems that you may have missed the REAL problems in this situation. In a nutshell (emphasis on nut) the REAL problems are dishonest, incompetent, lying politicians who are willing to sacrifice their country’s security as well as other people’s lives, careers and honor in pursuit of their ambitions for acquisition of power at any cost.

In the case at hand, Gorelick and Clinton and Reno are exemplars extraordinaire of the species. However, you are correct “blame” in, and of, itself, is useless.

Blame is worthless except as it discredits and holds up for shame, thus discouraging (hopefully) any of similar ilk from trying the same types blindly ambitious shenanigans in the future. Far from blame, the proper FIX is vigorous prosecution and incarceration is the order of the day for these types of politicians.

As an alternative to the above cited, “proper” FIX, attaching public blame to the likes of Gorelick and Clinton and Reno may have the salutatory effect of dimming election hopes for similar types. However, such a salutatory effect will accrue only if the press honestly reports the facts and the people react with righteous indignation over criminal and treasonous behavior.

What kind of REAL problems beyond that which I have cited could possible exist?
26 posted on 08/23/2005 9:39:43 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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