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(Cornell) Plan would move African wildlife to U.S. (lions in Nebraska?)
The State.Com ^ | Posted on Thu, Aug. 18, 2005 | By JOSEPH B. VERRENGIA

Posted on 08/18/2005 5:52:59 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

Lions stalking deer in the stubble of a Nebraska cornfield. Elephants trumpeting across Colorado’s high plains. Cheetah slouching through the West Texas scrub.

Prominent ecologists are floating an audacious plan that sounds like a “Jumanji” sequel — transplant African wildlife to the Great Plains of North America.

Their radical proposal is greeted with gasps and groans from other scientists and conservationists who recall previous efforts to relocate foreign species halfway around the world, often with disastrous results.

The authors contend it could help save Africa’s poster species from extinction, where protection is spotty and habitat is vanishing.

“We aren’t backing a truck up to some dump site in the dark and turning lose a bunch of elephants,” said Cornell University ecologist Harry W. Greene, one of the plan’s authors.

While most modern African species never lived on the American prairie, the scientists think today’s animals could duplicate the natural roles played by their departed, even larger cousins — mastodons, camels and saber-toothed cats — that roamed for more than 1 million years alongside antelope and bison.

But the scientists’ plan, which appears in today’s issue of the journal Nature, is triggering thunderclaps of criticism, with discouraging words such as “stupid” and “defeatist” raining down.

Critics point to Australia, which was overrun by rabbits and poisonous cane toads after misguided species relocations.

Some conservationists said the plan would further damage the prospects of African species on their native turf, as well as that continent’s hopes for sustainable economic development.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; US: Colorado; US: Nebraska; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cityofevil; cornell; ithaca
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Cornell University ecologist[s]

Ithaca is the City of Evil.


1 posted on 08/18/2005 5:53:01 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; bentfeather; gaspar; NativeNewYorker; drjimmy; Atticus; John Valentine; ...
City of Evil bump:


2 posted on 08/18/2005 5:53:43 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

LOL what pot are they smoking? Now drivers will have to look out for springboks too.


3 posted on 08/18/2005 5:54:21 AM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
But the scientists’ plan, which appears in today’s issue of the journal Nature, is triggering thunderclaps of criticism, with discouraging words such as “stupid” and “defeatist” raining down.

No further comment needed
4 posted on 08/18/2005 5:55:18 AM PDT by Crazieman (6-23-2005, Establishment of the United Socialist States of America)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

My question is would they survive the North American winter?


5 posted on 08/18/2005 5:56:07 AM PDT by shekkian
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To: shekkian

Sure. By eating our pets and livestock.


6 posted on 08/18/2005 5:57:08 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I hunt in Nebraska. Some misguided people have already tried to introduce wolves, and there are cougars already.

Farmers have a simple solution to this. Shoot, Shovel, Shut up. Just make sure you find the radio tag before you shovel.


7 posted on 08/18/2005 5:57:10 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Their plan bumps into the UN prohibition on introduction of non-indigenous species..

Maybe if the Ithacans worked to educate the Africans and of course, Robert Mugabe, that poster child for the eradication of all animal life and humans from Zimbabwe, in fact send all Ithacans there, they could save the predators.


8 posted on 08/18/2005 5:58:10 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Try permaculture and get back to the Founders intent. Mr. Jefferson lives!)
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To: shekkian

Would someone be so kind as to remind the idiots at Cornell that Lions eat meat, lots of meat, they consider humans an absolute delicacy and put them at the top of their menu.


9 posted on 08/18/2005 5:58:14 AM PDT by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Rough Neck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast (Oil Field Trash was FUN))
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Must be a typo in your title....obviously you meant Corney not Cornell...


10 posted on 08/18/2005 5:59:35 AM PDT by Always Right
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I don't know, I imagine we could use some variety in our diet out here.

I wonder if a 45-70 would put a pachyderm in the freezer, and the kids' freezers, and aunts' and uncles', and ....

11 posted on 08/18/2005 5:59:56 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (God save us from the fury of the do-gooders!)
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To: cpdiii
Would someone be so kind as to remind the idiots at Cornell that Lions eat meat, lots of meat

The idiots at Cornell are, and I am not making this up, already giddy at the fact that Coyotes are starting to make their way into the City of Evil.

Wait until their pets start getting snacked upon.

12 posted on 08/18/2005 5:59:56 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Smokin' Joe

lol


13 posted on 08/18/2005 6:01:10 AM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

This is the most willfully stupid idea I've heard in many a day.


14 posted on 08/18/2005 6:01:35 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: redgolum

Don't forget to drive very slowly to the nearest interstate highway gas station and put the tag on the first vehicle with a leftover Kerry bumpersticker....


15 posted on 08/18/2005 6:01:36 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (God save us from the fury of the do-gooders!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

In my mind right now I'm imagining a group of lions roaming the prairie in North or South Dakota sometime in January when the wind howls down straight from northern Canada with nothing to stop it and snow falls horizontally.

My advice? Have some of those nice eastern ecologist folks come and spend some actual time on the Great Plains and they might discover why every animal that's native to the area is either covered with thick hair or built low to the ground.

Sometimes educated people can be SOOOOOOOOOO dumb!


16 posted on 08/18/2005 6:02:39 AM PDT by Polycarp1
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To: Smokin' Joe
Don't forget to drive very slowly to the nearest interstate highway gas station and put the tag on the first vehicle with a leftover Kerry bumpersticker....

Or overnight the tags to the Ecology Dept at Cornell U.

17 posted on 08/18/2005 6:04:12 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Smokin' Joe

Not a bad idea.

I do know of one guy that shot a cougar and put it in his freezer to stuff. Got a visit from game and parks a few weeks later.

My father has seen cougar tracks in his farm in eastern Nebraska. His plan is to shoot it and call the game warden over to haul it away as the last time one was around it went after some hogs.


18 posted on 08/18/2005 6:05:01 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Wait until their pets start getting snacked upon.

Pets nothin'. Coyotes are extremely aggressive in areas where they feel no fear (I doubt most Ithacan's have a .223 propped against the kitchen door). It's only a matter of time before they take a child.

19 posted on 08/18/2005 6:05:23 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I, for one, am in favor of this plan. Think of the benefits to the local communities that this would bring.

Young boys could be hired to be brush beaters
Local rental agencies doing a booming business in Land Rover rentals
Taxidermy shops opening across the mid-west
Locals could sport native dress and preform native dances for the tourists
The list is unlimited

This would open a whole world to people who can not afford to visit the African savanah.

What? We can't hunt the lions? Never mind.

20 posted on 08/18/2005 6:09:04 AM PDT by 11Bush (No outstanding felonies, but my life has been one long misdemeanor.)
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