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Officials plan crackdown on illegal gun transfers (CA)
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | August 11, 2005 | Alison Shackelford Hewitt

Posted on 08/16/2005 12:07:37 PM PDT by neverdem

COPLEY NEWS SERVICE

LOS ANGELES – Gun owners beware: law enforcement officials want Los Angeles gun users to know that they can be arrested for giving or selling a gun to someone without a legal background check, especially if the gun turns up at a crime scene. Officials announced Thursday that state and local law enforcement agencies are teaming up to launch a crackdown on illegal gun exchanges.

The effort will begin as a pilot program in two high-crime areas of Los Angeles, around the Los Angeles Police Department's 77th Street station in South Los Angeles, and around the Devonshire station in Northridge.

Anyone who purchases a gun in those areas will now receive a warning letter from City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo's office reminding them that giving the gun to anyone else without submitting a "dealer record of sale" form is illegal.

Police officers at crime scenes find guns that were used by someone other than the registered owner with an alarming frequency, Delgadillo said, meaning that criminals are skirting background-check requirements. The guns were often purchased legally by the original owner before finding their way to the unregistered owner, he added.

"These laws are on the books not to restrict the rights of law-abiding people to own a gun, but to ensure that weapons do not fall into the hands of those who seek to use these weapons for criminal acts," Delgadillo said. "We're not going to reach (gang members) through this letter. But we are going to reach those who they are hiring or engaging to buy these guns for them."

The letter reminding people about the existing state law will go out during the 10 days gun purchasers must wait before they can pick up the gun.

Filling out the gun transfer forms at a licensed gun dealer allows the state to enforce background checks and waiting periods, and protects the previous owner from prosecution if the gun is used by someone else to commit a crime, said Jim McDonnell, a Los Angeles assistant police chief.

Convictions can mean up to a year in prison, Delgadillo said.

Registered owners will not be held responsible if their guns are stolen, as long as they report the theft to police, officials said.

However, even guns passed down because of the death of a family member must be re-registered by the new owner, Delgadillo said.

If the program is successful in the pilot areas, officials said they hope to gain more funding to expand it throughout Los Angeles.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist

1 posted on 08/16/2005 12:07:41 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

yeah, this will cut down on crime. Because criminals care about the law 'n stuff.


2 posted on 08/16/2005 12:08:31 PM PDT by flashbunny (Always remember to bring a towel!)
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To: neverdem
criminals are skirting background-check requirements

NO!!!! Impossible!

3 posted on 08/16/2005 12:09:43 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Joe Brower

Make sure you register all your firearms with the State.


4 posted on 08/16/2005 12:11:05 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (NRA)
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To: neverdem

Unless, of course, you are an illegal - then the state will not bother you...


5 posted on 08/16/2005 12:23:03 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: neverdem
"These laws are on the books not to restrict the rights of law-abiding people to own a gun..."

When a government official starts issuing statements like this, interpretation is very simple: the truth is the exact opposite of what is being said.

6 posted on 08/16/2005 12:26:14 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: Disambiguator

No doubt for the children


7 posted on 08/16/2005 12:30:00 PM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: neverdem
However, even guns passed down because of the death of a family member must be re-registered by the new owner. At least this is a little better than the laws in New York. If no family survivors have a pistol permit, the family has 10 days to turn the weapons over to the local police department for safe keeping until a pistol permit can be gotten.
8 posted on 08/16/2005 12:31:12 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: neverdem

When will criminal charges be lodged against those conducting gun buy-ups? Those are transfers without background checks. Lots and lots of them! Oh, that's right, the laws don't apply to the police.


9 posted on 08/16/2005 12:35:20 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: coloradan

Excellent Point!


10 posted on 08/16/2005 12:45:46 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
Any idea how many years before the population of CA is 92% hispanic, 6% black and 2% white? And most of the hispanic are illegal?
11 posted on 08/16/2005 1:48:03 PM PDT by hophead (" Shi'ite happens..")
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To: neverdem
"Gun owners beware: law enforcement officials want Los Angeles gun users to know that they can be arrested for giving or selling a gun to someone without a legal background check..."

...but reminded citizens that long-term leases of guns, like cars and real-estate, still require no state background check.

< /Wink >

12 posted on 08/16/2005 2:11:35 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: neverdem

"Son I'd like to give you this gun but first will you sign here so I can run a crimminal background check on you ?"


13 posted on 08/16/2005 6:58:06 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: neverdem

In a few years (or sooner) no one in California will be allowed to own a firearm.

And of course when that happens the gang-bangers and other criminals will obey the law!


14 posted on 08/16/2005 9:52:42 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: FreedomPoster

No /sarc tag?


15 posted on 08/16/2005 9:55:09 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward

That's dripping with sarcasm.


16 posted on 08/17/2005 1:56:18 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (NRA)
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To: FreedomPoster

Thanks. Just checking.


17 posted on 08/17/2005 8:10:54 AM PDT by moehoward
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