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The ONLY threat that Saddam was, was to Bush Sr that he hated.

Tell that to Kuwait. The reason that we invaded Iraq was because Saddam violated the terms of the cease fire after we kicked his raping, looting, and murdering army out of Kuwait.

Today the country is overwhelmed with terrorists that are MOTIVATED by our presence in the mid east.

It is not "overwhelmed with terrorists". They are not fighting because WE are there; they are fighting because they are no longer in control of the government, and they want that control back.

It is more a Terrorists training ground now than ever before. WE gave them motivation.

That is absolute nonsense. The people of Iraq are sick of the terrorists. You need to get your information from somebody other than Teddy Kennedy.

Because of that war more money is pouring into the coffers than ever.

More nonsense. They are suffering a severe funding problem, the likes of which they have never seen. Just because you say something, that doesn't make it so.

I have heard they do not know if "elections' in Afghanistan can be held as planned because of all the NEW foreign terrorists flooding in there.

You heard this where? You need to stop listening to the "voices" in your head.

Get back on your meds. Staying is not a "catastrophe", it is necessary until the Iraqis can take care of themselves. That time is getting ever closer. Leaving right now would be unthinkable, because we would be leaving the Iraqi people at the mercy of their neighbors. Those neighbors are the ones supplying the arms, funding, and personnel for terrorism.

So now we threaten Iran with the military option.

Iran is attempting to build nuclear weapons for the specific purpose of attacking Israel and the US. They have made this very clear. If they continue to pursue this course, they will likely face the military option.

The ONLY threat that Saddam was, was to Bush Sr that he hated. Tell that to Kuwait. The reason that we invaded Iraq was because Saddam violated the terms of the cease fire after we kicked his raping, looting, and murdering army out of Kuwait. Today the country is overwhelmed with terrorists that are MOTIVATED by our presence in the mid east.
It is not "overwhelmed with terrorists". They are not fighting because WE are there; they are fighting because they are no longer in control of the government, and they want that control back.

Who is THEY?. We have been told in briefings that 'new' terrorists are coming in from the 'porous' borders. So they are not all Iraqis at least that is what the military has told us. The Iraqis LOVE us, it is the foreign forces causing a 'problem'

Is our government lying?

It is more a Terrorists training ground now than ever before. WE gave them motivation.
That is absolute nonsense. The people of Iraq are sick of the terrorists. You need to get your information from somebody other than Teddy Kennedy.

Wait I thought you just said that the ones killing Americans were people (Iraqis) wanting their control back

Which is it are they Iraqis that love us or foreigners that hate us coming into Iraq?

I have heard they do not know if "elections' in Afghanistan can be held as planned because of all the NEW foreign terrorists flooding in there. You heard this where? You need to stop listening to the "voices" in your head.

Well we will see wont we ( I heard that on MSNBC I believe..remember they have already been delayed once ) But we will soon see shall we not?

The bloody war continues there, and the Taliban is still present. So we will see shortly how stable" a democracy" our blood and dollars bought

Bush has opened a Pandora's box, and try as he may I do not think he will be able to stuff it all back in. We are now between a rock and hard place, staying is a catastrophe and leaving would be unthinkable because of what we will leave behind.
Get back on your meds. Staying is not a "catastrophe", it is necessary until the Iraqis can take care of themselves. That time is getting ever closer. Leaving right now would be unthinkable, because we would be leaving the Iraqi people at the mercy of their neighbors. Those neighbors are the ones supplying the arms, funding, and personnel for terrorism.

I think if your unarmored jeep is blown up and you loose both your legs you MIGHT think it is a catastrophe.

So now we threaten Iran with the military option.
Iran is attempting to build nuclear weapons for the specific purpose of attacking Israel and the US. They have made this very clear. If they continue to pursue this course, they will likely face the military option.

But notice we use a carrot with the crazy man in N Korea and a stick with the people of Iran

"A double minded man is UNSTABLE in all his ways "