Posted on 08/13/2005 3:39:11 PM PDT by freepatriot32
If you don't like the Constitution, then why don't YOU be te one to go someplace else instead of suggesting it to those who like the country that the Founding Fathers created?
Uh, right. Stunning logical progression there, sport. Interesting that you'd want to persuade me in that direction though. Hmmm.
Anyway, I know what this is about. This is libertarians whining about the evil government burdening meth labs uh, store clerks. Of course, nobody here actually wants meth, it's just the principle of the thing.
I do have a problem with our government jailing people for selling LEGAL substances.
Oh I agree. If these people were truly not aware of the meth world, they did no wrong and should not be incarcerated. Even if they sold truly neutral items, like camping fuel, and knew it might be misused, they should walk. If they sold a dozen boxes of behind-the-counter cold meds at a time? Sounds like a willing accomplice to me.
We could make it all prescription-only again, but we all know that isn't what you folks want. You want fewer evil big government drug regulations, not more. Not that any libertarians would buy the stuff. Just the principle, you know.
Libertarians spend A LOT more time (30-40% by your estimation) whining about our nazi-like government jailing innocent people just for selling ILLEGAL substances (that they don't use, of course. It's just the principle). This is not a conservative value, but one much more aligned with the aging antiwar hippy type.
Look at the posts on this thread. See any that sound anti-American/"Mother Sheehan"/Michael Moore/moonbat-ish?
It's not illegal, per se, to sell cold medicine, antifreeze and aluminum foil.
Heck, I buy cold medicine, antifreeze and aluminum foil several times a year (maybe only once or twice a year for antifreeze).
That's not what's against the law.
I gather that what's against the law is selling it to drug dealers -- how on earth can you know what the purchaser intends to do with these items?
they shoud just shoot him in the back of the head and make his family pay the cost of the bullet /sarcasm
This is absolutely outrageous. It make me want to take back all the nasty things I said about the ACLU and write them a check.
We've lost our minds. Our country has lost it's mind. How many more lives to be sacrificed for the "war ondrugsterror".
out-of-control Amerika ping
Its not the meth heads you have to worry about breaking into your house and killing you in the middle of the night espially if they know you have a ccw
The prosecutors have become the criminals.Conservative FReepers, or a bunch of drug obsessed paranoid anarchist whiners?
Yep...that's what used to be "conservative" thinking around these parts.
Now we've got a bunch of big-government nanny statists who want to pass as many laws as possible in order to keep law abiding citizens from conveniently purchasing legal substances.
It's pretty obvious from your posts that your political leanings skew towards the liberal side of the spectrum.
Why are you even here at FR?
One of your own gave up that much when he said you "only" devote 30-40% of your time to discussions about drug use. That's supposed to demonstrate good libertarian balance. LOL
So the question goes back to you ... given the maniacal DU type "Amerika is evil" ravings I've pointed out on this thread, why are the dopers libertarians even on FR? Put that in your bong and smoke it, dude. It's like, cosmic.
BTTT
---One poster wants to support the ACLU.
---Another poster paraphrases the moonbat left with "How many more lives to be sacrificed for the "war on drugs".
---Yet another mimics the lefties with "out-of-control Amerika"
I've said very little except to poke fun at the "Legalize Pot and Some Other Important Stuff Party". I think most of you are comically disingenuous.
You say that means my "political leanings skew towards the liberal side of the spectrum"? That comment and Mosquitobite's give me an idea.
Perhaps you should change the name to the non sequitur party? Give the drugs, everyone would understand.
In other news...Mosques( AKA training grounds for terrorists) are opening all across the United States as Americans are reassured that Islam is a "Religion of Peace."
That's not really the main focus of this thread, which you would know if you had actually read the article, but I guess it's so much easier to just go off on your emotional rant directed towrds those "evil" libertarians.
From the article:
"This is the first time I heard this -- I don't know how to pronounce -- this meta-meta something," said Hajira Ahmed. Her husband is one of the 49 arrested. He sits in jail awaiting trial on charges he sold cold medicine and antifreeze.
Apparently you don't see a problem with an out of control drug war that snares store owners and clerks for selling perfectly legal substances. I guess that makes you feel safer, doesn't it?
So the question goes back to you ... given the maniacal DU type "Amerika is evil" ravings
America is not evil, however the war on (some) drugs most certainly is, as evidenced by JBT's gunning down a man for posessing a small amount of marijuana.
Man killed by Sunrise police in drug raid had 2 ounces of marijuana
This kind of crap happens all the time, thanks to drug warriors like you.
Yep...you and your ilk are no different than the leftist gun-grabbers.
What I see happening...is that Bubba goes up to the cold medicine distributor in Chicago, and says he needs four cases per month of the stuff, and shipped to this store front. The store-front is Billy-Bob's bait shop and he simply picks up the cases and resells to his buddies throughout the state who need the stuff. And of course, you charge double for each bottle because you are a capitalist at heart.
What you people do not realize is that the story is that these stores had arranged the principal ingredients of meth into a single display, along with the pseudoephidrene. Just so you know what was really happening.
Do you have a link to that?
I find it hard to digest that there would be a display with
pfed,lithium,anhydrious,lye,ect in a display
This is just what I heard. I wish I had the news link, but I'm not sure where it exists. I admit that this is a touchy situation: Arresting people for selling legal products. Meth is a problem, so what do we do? Some locales have passed ordinances calling for logbooks to write down the names of folks who purchase the ingredients. I'm not sure how I feel about all this.
You're not demonizing the mosques instead of the criminals, are you? ;-)
If you had actually read what I've said, and not simply had an emotional reaction to being mocked, you'd know that that's the one thing we DO agree on.
No gun grabber here. Is this the 2+2=5 thread, or what? This is getting surreal.
Taking away our Second Amendment right to bear arms is equivalent to taking away our (oops I forget what number this Amendment is) "right" to cook meth and smoke pot?
You've got to be kidding ... or stoned.
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