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Tax Reform: Now or Never(FairTax Endorsement)
OpinionsEditorials.com ^ | August 08, 2005 | Jan Larson

Posted on 08/08/2005 5:20:29 PM PDT by Man50D

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To: lewislynn
Importers flooding flea markets from across the open borders. No individual audits, no requirement to produce a worthless receipt for proof of purchase/tax paid and every crook and crooked business knows it. Add to that the phoney rebates to every household in the country with a SS# (and we know there aren't any phoney SS#'s out there).

Do ya think the SSA just might know if a SSN is valid or not?

41 posted on 08/09/2005 8:14:01 AM PDT by rwrcpa1 (April 15. Let's make it just another day.)
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To: rwrcpa1
Do ya think the SSA just might know if a SSN is valid or not?
They either don't know now or don't care...what would change that?
42 posted on 08/09/2005 8:19:16 AM PDT by lewislynn (Status quo today is the result of eliminating the previous status quo. Be careful what you wish for)
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To: lewislynn

Gee, LL. Thanks for the link. Overall, a good testimony. Of course you took one little paragraph and made it look like the person was totally against the Fair Tax.


43 posted on 08/09/2005 8:22:30 AM PDT by rwrcpa1 (April 15. Let's make it just another day.)
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To: lewislynn

Sounds to me like they're just rounding off.


44 posted on 08/09/2005 8:28:30 AM PDT by rwrcpa1 (April 15. Let's make it just another day.)
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To: lewislynn

Huh?


45 posted on 08/09/2005 8:29:07 AM PDT by rwrcpa1 (April 15. Let's make it just another day.)
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To: lewislynn
No, I think they just don't share with other agencies very well. They would be administering the rebate, and they would have the information in their computer database. It would be a very simple process.

1. Send in a form with the SSN's for your family members.

2. SSA compares the number on the form with numbers in their database, checking that (a) numbers are valid and (b) numbers haven't been used by anyone else.

It is all done with computers. Very simple process, actually.

46 posted on 08/09/2005 8:37:01 AM PDT by rwrcpa1 (April 15. Let's make it just another day.)
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To: Taxman; Man50D


47 posted on 08/09/2005 9:47:52 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: Taxman; Man50D

Go play on another thread and leave the serious discussions to those who are capable of reading and comprehending the English language!

Interesting how the discourse and keyword associations of a thread deteriorate as soon some like lewislynn shows up isn't it.

48 posted on 08/09/2005 9:48:10 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: ancient_geezer
At least they're consistent.
49 posted on 08/09/2005 12:06:56 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: ovrtaxt

Thanks. I was just wondering where the promo tour was taking them.


50 posted on 08/09/2005 2:31:20 PM PDT by n-tres-ted (Remember November!)
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To: Kitanis
But most of the public are oblivious to what happens in Washington. Many of them are like sheep..

Think about the practical way the Fair Tax would play out. Every day, every purchase that everybody makes carries a painful reminder of how EXPENSIVE our government is.

The withholding, gone. The embedded cost of taxes in goods and services, gone. It's all right there on top of every purchase, every day.

Do you really think the sheep wouldn't wake up? That's the ultimate beauty of this plan, because the current tax code isn't really about funding the government, it's about control. (see my home page.)

51 posted on 08/09/2005 5:47:24 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Logic test: Pearl Harbor is to 911 as Harry Truman is to .....)
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To: lewislynn

You are correct, LooneyLiarLurkeyLou -- Burton and Mastromarco were heavily involved in writing both H.R. 2001 and H.R. 25.

At the outset, LurkeyLiarLooneyLou, let me stipulate that I believe that the majority of the American people are honest and that they pay their taxes faithfully.

That said, the case has been made many times on these threads that the incidence of tax evasion/cheating will decrease after the Fair Tax becomes law of the land (Bill Gale's wild rantings notwithstanding!), primarily because the Fair Tax treats all consumers as equals -- as was intended by the Founding Fathers, whereas the progressive income tax does not.

That fact alone will cause many who cheat now to quit cheating.

I and others believe that there are several other elements of the Fair Tax that will tend to lower the incidence of cheating. Think of every family unit having more disposable income, the individual and business FReedom aspect, a growing economy and increasing prosperity for all Americans, etc. etc., and you will get the picture, maybe.

That said, there will always be a criminal element in any society who seek advantage and will try to game the system to their advantage. The Fair Tax awards some rather stiff penalties for those who are caught cheating.

That you don't buy the argument is your problem, not mine. Most people, when I explain it to them, understand.

I would, of course, never expect someone with your mindset to understand.

As for my handle, it has served me well. Those who know me personally and on these threads know that I am neither a mental midget nor an idiot.

That cannot be said of those who know you on these threads.


52 posted on 08/09/2005 5:49:22 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Man50D

Consistently pigheaded!

Consistently wrong!


53 posted on 08/09/2005 5:50:27 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: ovrtaxt

Good Answer Bump!


54 posted on 08/09/2005 5:51:40 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman

I learned from the best!!


55 posted on 08/09/2005 5:53:42 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Logic test: Pearl Harbor is to 911 as Harry Truman is to .....)
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To: ovrtaxt

Roger that!


56 posted on 08/09/2005 6:44:15 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman
That said, the case has been made many times on these threads that the incidence of tax evasion/cheating will decrease after the Fair Tax becomes law
Many cases are made on these threads. You have to be a complete moron to think that just because a "case has been made many times on these threads" makes it fact...

You've just proven yourself a fool in more ways than just choosing your name.

57 posted on 08/09/2005 7:32:51 PM PDT by lewislynn (Status quo today is the result of eliminating the previous status quo. Be careful what you wish for)
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To: lewislynn

One must be a complete moron to believe anything you say, LurkeyLooneyLiarLou.

Veracity is not one of your character traits.


58 posted on 08/09/2005 7:45:29 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: lewislynn
Bears repeating, LurkeyLiarLooneyLou:

"Go play on another thread and leave the serious discussions to those who are capable of reading and comprehending the English language!

59 posted on 08/09/2005 7:48:24 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: lewislynn
Many cases are made on these threads. You have to be a complete moron to think that just because a "case has been made many times on these threads" makes it fact...

You don't seem to have any trouble believing the bilge you keep repeating over and over again.

60 posted on 08/10/2005 7:28:55 AM PDT by rwrcpa1 (April 15. Let's make it just another day.)
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