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Google urged to drop nuclear site images
The Australian ^ | 8th August 2005 | Natasha Bita

Posted on 08/07/2005 2:35:28 PM PDT by naturalman1975

THE head of Australia's nuclear energy agency has called on the owners of an internet satellite program to censor images of the country's only nuclear reactor.

Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation executive director Ian Smith said he would ask internet search engine Google to remove the Lucas Heights reactor from its Google Earth program. The online program combines satellite images with aerial photographs and maps to let users zoom in on almost any building in the world.

While Google Earth "censors" the White House with blocks of colour over the roof and the nearby Treasury Department and Executive Office buildings, anyone with a computer and web connection can use the free program to see aerial shots of sensitive Australian sites such as the Lucas Heights reactor, the secret US spy base at Pine Gap, outside Alice Springs, and Parliament House in Canberra.

The satellite image of the Lucas Heights facility, on a 70ha site 40km southwest of Sydney's CBD, clearly shows the layout of the buildings and carpark.

"We're going to ask Google to take it off," Dr Smith told The Australian.

"It doesn't stop somebody who's determined to get the information getting it, but having it on the internet just makes it so much more readily available. We don't want to provide any easy assistance to anyone who wants to interfere with the site."

Dr Smith said the Lucas Heights facility was clearly visible from the road, or from commercial aircraft flying overhead and noted Google's image was about two years out of date.

"The question comes down to, if you put it on the internet, does it go to Pakistan or Afghanistan and make it easy for them?"

Despite the construction of a new reactor and a five-year, $36million security upgrade announced in last year's federal budget, Dr Smith admitted that trespassers could enter the site "if they really want to".

"There's a small area near the middle of the site which is quite secure, but the bulk of our site isn't all that secure," he said.

"We don't have the guarding or the hardware to stop someone from getting in to the site if they really wanted to."

Dr Smith said ANSTO liaised with intelligence agencies to assess threats and met global security standards for storing nuclear materials.

Frenchman Willie Brigitte was deported from Australia in 2003 over an alleged plot to bomb the Lucas Heights reactor, which uses small amounts of uranium to manufacture medicines and for scientific research.

A Google spokeswoman defended the technology, noting the images were six to 18 months old and not detailed enough to zoom in on people. "The same information is available to anyone who flies over or drives by a piece of property," she said.

DigitalGlobe, the US company which sold the Lucas Heights photos to Google, said it did not censor any of its images.

"Although we are very sensitive to the concerns voiced, we are not required to seek permission to image areas around the world," spokesman Chuck Herring said.

Mr Herring said US law banned his company from selling to individuals, organisations or nations - including Iran and Cuba - on the US's "denied party" list. "When we sell it to Google, how they disseminate it over the internet is really up to them," he said.

A spokesman for Attorney-General Philip Ruddock downplayed the security threat posed by web-based imaging. "Australian government security agencies are aware of such sites and the information available on them and factor them into their assessments of threat," he said.


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1 posted on 08/07/2005 2:35:29 PM PDT by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

This article does not inspire confidence...


2 posted on 08/07/2005 2:38:07 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: naturalman1975
being google acts like a left-wing machine for information on the net it's no wonder they would show such photos.

google, democrats, terrorist. all the same team.

that is just my opinion.
3 posted on 08/07/2005 2:39:11 PM PDT by postaldave (dont ask me, i'm just a simple post birth, tissue mass.)
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To: postaldave


It's not just your opinion...look how they have accomodated the Chicomms with the Chinese version of google, which basically filters any websites for democracy and freedom.\

Google has a lot of explaining to do...IMHO.


4 posted on 08/07/2005 2:43:27 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent Green is People!")
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To: postaldave


5 posted on 08/07/2005 2:43:36 PM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: naturalman1975
Here it is.


6 posted on 08/07/2005 2:45:31 PM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: naturalman1975
Most of the world is pretty low resolution, Canberra is visible but Alice Springs is too blurred to make out anything specific.

-Eric

7 posted on 08/07/2005 2:53:26 PM PDT by E Rocc (If we're all God's Children, what does that say about marriage?)
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To: melt
San Onofre Nuclear Power Plant, CA


8 posted on 08/07/2005 3:01:10 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: naturalman1975
...the secret US spy base at Pine Gap, outside Alice Springs...

Well, I guess it's not so secret now, is it?

9 posted on 08/07/2005 3:07:28 PM PDT by Bob
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To: melt

That looks like a grain silo. :)


10 posted on 08/07/2005 3:16:02 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: South40

That's scary, isn't it. I don't live too far away from San Onofre, and I know they'd love to hit it. But our guys are pretty sharp.


11 posted on 08/07/2005 3:33:06 PM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: South40

A mere 15 minutes from my house...


12 posted on 08/07/2005 3:33:37 PM PDT by Zeon Cowboy (.blogspot.com)
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To: lepton

I know. It's not very up-to-date, is it? But this is where I got it from: http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/auspac/06/21/aust.nuclear/


13 posted on 08/07/2005 3:36:35 PM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: naturalman1975

" the secret US spy base at Pine Gap, outside Alice Springs,"

Oh No! Another leak! Did Valerie Wilson work at Pine Gap?


14 posted on 08/07/2005 3:48:56 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: melt

It's not up to date at all - it's a 1960s reactor. The replacement reactor OPAL is under construction at the moment, and due to come online over the next 18 months.


15 posted on 08/07/2005 3:52:12 PM PDT by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: naturalman1975

The google satellite photos of Washington DC are blurred over the White House and the Capital Building, but a number of other potential targets aren't distorted, which is just stupid.


16 posted on 08/07/2005 3:52:57 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson
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To: lepton

People in the surrounding areas refer to it as the garbage bin (trash can)


17 posted on 08/07/2005 3:53:11 PM PDT by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: naturalman1975

Thanks for the update. I guess they decided that the earthquake fault was of no concern. Or did they re-locate?


18 posted on 08/07/2005 4:00:16 PM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: Zeon Cowboy; melt
I'm not too far away myself.

I've spent many an hour surfing the beaches near there, and have camped at the park countless times.

19 posted on 08/07/2005 4:11:43 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: melt

It's basically on the same site.

The fault line in question hasn't been significantly active for at least 5 million years, probably more like 13 million years. It's not an active fault by any stretch of the imagination, and so the judgement is that Lucas Heights is no more dangerous in terms of earthquake risk than anywhere else - so they decided it didn't matter.


20 posted on 08/07/2005 4:27:23 PM PDT by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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