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Deportation not fair, says extremist (on benefits)
Associated Newspapers Ltd ^ | 6th August 2005

Posted on 08/07/2005 12:21:25 AM PDT by kingattax

An extreme Muslim cleric whose family have been living on benefits in Britain for 20 years says it would not be 'fair' to deport him.

Speaking after the Prime Minister announced his clampdown, father-of-seven Sheik Omar Bakri said: "I have wives, children, sons-in-law, daughters-in-law. It would be hard on my family if I was deported."

Since Syrian-born Bakri settled in Britain, he and his extended family have raked in benefits amounting to at least £300,000.

He is registered disabled because of an injury to his leg during his childhood, and was recently supplied with a £31,000 Ford Galaxy under the Motability scheme.

Bakri, who lives in a £200,000 home in North London, tops up his £250-a-week benefit payments with an extra £50 incapacity allowance.

He has praised the September 11 terrorists as 'magnificent', called Israel 'a cancer' and said homosexuals should be 'thrown from Big Ben'.

In January, he declared that Britain had become a 'land of war', and called on Muslims to unite behind Al Qaeda. He has supported suicide bombings and urged his followers to kill non-Muslims ' wherever, whenever'.

He also claimed he has no wish to stay in Britain, but his family would suffer if he was deported.

"If they want to change the law and say that people who are here must live within the framework of those rules, then that is fine," said the 45-year-old cleric.

"But they cannot punish people by backdating it for 20 years or so.

"That is not a smart or fair system. Tony Blair should have charged me years ago if that was the case. He did not because I had done nothing wrong."

Bakri also claimed he had tried to dissuade affected young Muslims from carrying out terror attacks in Britain, by telling them that under Islamic law it would be wrong to target a country in which they were living.

'You're going to go back'

Blair unveiled the tough crackdown on those who inspire Islamic terrorism and pledged to amend the Human Rights Act if the courts try to use it to block deportations.

Speaking in Downing Street, Mr Blair said he is ready to recall Parliament next month to drive the new laws through as quickly as possible.

He declared: "Let no one be in any doubt that the rules of the games are changing. People can't come here and abuse our good nature and our tolerance.

"They can't come here and start inciting our young people in communities to take up violence against British people here. And if you do that, you're going to go back."

The proposals include:

• Deporting foreigners who foster hate, or advocate or justify violence.

•Throwing out those linked to extremist websites, groups, bookshops or centres.

• Banning foreign extremist preachers from Britain.

•Closing mosques and places of worship if used for 'fomenting extremism'.

•Outlawing worldwide the condoning or glorifying of terrorism.

• Refusing asylum to anyone linked to terrorism.

• Stripping citizenship from extremist naturalised Britons.

• Banning extremist Islamic groups Hizb ut Tahrir and Al-Muhajiroun.

Previous attempts to deport Islamic hardliners have been derailed because judges have ruled they could face torture in countries such as Jordan, Algeria or Lebanon - and that would breach the European Convention on Human Rights.

Mr Blair said he hoped the courts would allow deportations if Britain can get pledges from the ten countries involved that deportees will not be maltreated. French and Spanish courts allow such deportations.

And he made clear he is ready for a 'battle' with the courts. "Should legal obstacles arise, we will legislate further, including, if necessary, amending the Human Rights Act in respect of the interpretation of the ECHR."

Why was action not taken sooner?

In addition, ministers will introduce laws to allow appeals against deportation to be heard after a person has been thrown out.

And a maximum time limit will be imposed on cases to extradite terror suspects from Britain to other countries.

Mr Blair highlighted the case of Rachid Ramda, wanted by the French for the Paris bombings in 1995, but still in a British jail. It was 'totally unacceptable' that his case had dragged on for ten years.

The Government's intelligence and security co-ordinator Bill Jeffrey will head a unit of senior officials who will drive the crackdown through. Mr Blair also entered the debate on multi-culturalism, saying it is vital different communities are properly integrated.

He said he was 'worried' when he heard about people who had lived in Britain for 20 years but still did not speak English.

"There is a problem when people withdraw from the common culture and become separate in a very deliberate way - that's unhealthy," he said.

He was confident most Muslims would accept the new measures. "They know perfectly well these people are a menace to their own community, never mind to the rest of us."

His message contrasts with that of his lawyer wife Cherie last week, when she warned it would be "all too easy to respond to such terror in a way which undermines commitment to our most deeply-held values".

And Mr Blair ducked questions about why ministers had not acted sooner against hardliners.

He instead argued that Labour had faced fierce resistance in Parliament and the courts against previous anti-terror laws. "If I had come forward with these measures three or four months ago, I think it would have been a little more difficult."

But concern about failure to address the issue sooner was voiced earlier by Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair. "It may have been better if it was done before - but let's do it now," he told GMTV.

Last night, shadow home secretary David Davis said of the proposed clampdown: "It is vital that the Home Secretary is able to use his powers to deport or exclude non-UK citizens who threaten our national security - we have been calling for him to use these for some time. There is no reason why they cannot be applied as soon as possible."

But Liberal Democrat leader Charles Kennedy criticised the lack of consultation - and warned that Muslims could be alienated.

The Muslim Council of Britain said it could support some of the proposals, but criticised the decision to ban Hizb ut Tahrir as "undermining our own democratic values".

Shami Chakrabarti, director of civil liberties group Liberty, condemned the deportation plans.

"You do not deport people to places where they would face torture, and self-serving agreements and statements by governments that are not democratic are not going to cut it," she said.

Bruce Holder, chairman of the Bar Council's public affairs committee, criticised Mr Blair's pledge to amend the Human Rights Act.

"There can be no justification for suspending basic human rights when even other countries in Europe who are signatories to the European Convention on Human Rights are bound by the decisions of that court," he declared.

Omar Bakri: He's an extremist on benefits and says Blair clampdown is 'not fair'


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A parasite for 20 years..unreal
1 posted on 08/07/2005 12:21:25 AM PDT by kingattax
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In this case it doesn't ever sound like it was a 'benefit'. Sounds like it was freebies.


2 posted on 08/07/2005 12:25:58 AM PDT by rb22982
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Muhammadans take ingratitude and parasitism to dizzying new heights

These Muslim freaks and preachers feel the stupid infidel owes them these welfare payments. It's the same as the infamous Muslim tax on non Muslims called the Jizya. Immigrants who come to America should be totally ineligible for welfare and affirmative action


3 posted on 08/07/2005 12:48:11 AM PDT by dennisw ( G_d - ---> Against Amelek for all generations)
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They are forbidden alcohol, yet they so love whine!


4 posted on 08/07/2005 12:48:56 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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>"Shami Chakrabarti, director of civil liberties group Liberty, condemned the deportation plans. "You do not deport people to places where they would face torture, and self-serving agreements and statements by governments that are not democratic are not going to cut it," she said. "

You do not deport import people to places where they would face torture and murder, and sponge, and self-serving agreements and statements by governments that Shami Chakrabarti are not democratic & are not going to cut it


Kill A Commie For Mommie
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5 posted on 08/07/2005 12:50:03 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black send it back." Homer's guide to drinking in Springfield)
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He also claimed he has no wish to stay in Britain

And so Tony Blair is granting him his desire. No big deal. Better start packing!

6 posted on 08/07/2005 12:51:07 AM PDT by JRios1968 (Will work for a tagline.)
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Why not ship his family out with him? Oh, he doesn't want that! GB needs to get rid of people like that and pronto.


7 posted on 08/07/2005 12:51:09 AM PDT by Clock King
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"I have wives, children, sons-in-law, daughters-in-law.

I thought it was not legal to have more than one wife in the UK. Have they changed that?

It would be hard on my family if I was deported.

At least some of his kids are old enough to be married, so they would have to be old enough to support themselves, right?

Omar Bakri: He's an extremist on benefits and says Blair clampdown is 'not fair'

As I told my kids while they were growing up, life is not fair.

8 posted on 08/07/2005 12:51:54 AM PDT by GoLightly
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Speaking after the Prime Minister announced his clampdown, father-of-seven Sheik Omar Bakri said: "I have wives, children, sons-in-law, daughters-in-law. It would be hard on my family if I was deported."

Dr Evil says: "Well, Boo-frickin'-hoo"

9 posted on 08/07/2005 12:53:10 AM PDT by JRios1968 (Will work for a tagline.)
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"Well, Boo-frickin'-hoo" Kick his a$$ out !!!
10 posted on 08/07/2005 1:15:22 AM PDT by Deetes (God Bless the Troops and their Family's)
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"...it would not be 'fair' to deport him..."

Tough s*it, Omar.

11 posted on 08/07/2005 1:17:21 AM PDT by Truthsayer20
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RALPH...EARL...BUICK!


12 posted on 08/07/2005 1:21:12 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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Poor baby. Have you ever noticed what cry babies Muslims are while they are holding a knife behind their backs ready to stab you.

I think I just might like to move to Britain and become a lay about if lay abouts can live in such luxury.

13 posted on 08/07/2005 1:25:37 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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What an insult to the British people.

I wonder how many parasites we Americans support?


14 posted on 08/07/2005 1:28:46 AM PDT by purpleland (Vigilance and Valor!)
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ONE is too many


15 posted on 08/07/2005 1:39:11 AM PDT by kingattax
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Previous attempts to deport Islamic hardliners have been derailed because judges have ruled they could face torture in countries such as Jordan, Algeria or Lebanon - and that would breach the European Convention on Human Rights.

So deport them to the middle of the Pacific Ocean.

16 posted on 08/07/2005 2:09:09 AM PDT by Caesar Soze
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OUT!
17 posted on 08/07/2005 2:10:39 AM PDT by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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To: kingattax

This story is simply mind boggling.


18 posted on 08/07/2005 2:26:02 AM PDT by Tempest
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Gee, what would you know - an Islamofascist on welfare in Britain! He gladly takes benefits from the British taxpayers even as he incites killers to blow up Britons. The story proves a point Mark Steyn has been making - the welfare state is an incentive for breeding extremists as well as being a demographic death trap. Omar Bakri should really be executed but it that's not possible, throw him out of the country and make sure he never comes back.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
19 posted on 08/07/2005 2:32:50 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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"He also claimed he has no wish to stay in Britain, but his family would suffer if he was deported." No problem, deport his entire family. Amen.


20 posted on 08/07/2005 3:24:33 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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