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Border Patrol Agents Blast Politicians' Strategy - California Checkpoints Questioned
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Posted on 08/05/2005 1:35:51 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

Imagine the manager of the San Diego Padres requiring outfielders to remain in one location in the outfield while playing. The other teams would immediately figure out the weakness in the Padres’ strategy. Although outfielders might catch a few balls in the first innings, eventually, they would only catch balls hit right to them. Now, instead of telling the Padres’ manager to stop restricting the outfielders’ movement in the field, imagine the owner of the Padres concluding the outfielders were ineffective and no longer needed in the outfield. In an effort to improve the team, the owner tells the manager to move all outfielders to the infield to strengthen their efforts and improve their chances of catching the ball.

Isn’t this idea ridiculous? It is and this concept is what happened with the United States Border Patrol in San Diego. In 1996, Immigration and Naturalization Service and Border Patrol policies restricted other checkpoint enforcement operations. Agents were no longer permitted to patrol day-labor sites, transportation hubs, and other areas where illegal aliens regularly gathered. Patrolling the side roads while the checkpoints were operational was also terminated. These enforcement activities are within the authority of the Border Patrol and increased the effectiveness of the checkpoints.

At the same time, Congressman Robert Packard concluded Border Patrol checkpoints on highways I-5 and I-15 would be more effective if they were operated seven days a week, twenty-four hours a day and incorporated language into the appropriations bill which required the I-5 and I-15 checkpoints to operate 24/7. Consequently, all of these negative events caused apprehensions to plummet.

Congressman Darrell Issa recently said, “Closing the Temecula and San Clemente checkpoints would improve the Border Patrol’s chances of catching undocumented immigrants and seizing illegal drugs.” Officials of National Border Patrol Council, Local 1613 strongly disagree with this statement. Local 1613 officials previously informed Congressman Issa of a misuse of resources within the Border Patrol and the checkpoints on I-5 and I-15.

Closing the checkpoints and moving 200 agents from these checkpoints to the border is not the solution for reducing the number of illegal entrants. As long as people around the world know that once they circumvent the infield, there is an unmanned outfield and they will score a hit and make it to home base in the United States without any fear of being caught. There is no doubt the terrorists are exploiting this vulnerability.

The Border Patrol must maintain an outfield that is free to play their legal positions; otherwise, Border Patrol Agents assigned to checkpoints will continue to catch only the few people who hit the ball directly to them and the checkpoints will never be successful.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Arizona; US: Arkansas; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Oklahoma; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderpatrol; darrellissa; immigrantlist; issa; robertpackard
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What do you do when a congressman micromanages your job and the security of the country suffers as a result?

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Local 1613 officials previously informed Congressman Issa of a misuse of resources within the Border Patrol and the checkpoints on I-5 and I-15.

1 posted on 08/05/2005 1:35:54 PM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: DoughtyOne; janetgreen; Reagan Man; Reaganwuzthebest; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; ...
More protection measures - for the illegal aliens . .

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Isn’t this idea ridiculous?

It is and this concept is what happened with the United States Border Patrol in San Diego. In 1996, Immigration and Naturalization Service and Border Patrol policies restricted other checkpoint enforcement operations.

Agents were no longer permitted to patrol day-labor sites, transportation hubs, and other areas where illegal aliens regularly gathered.

Patrolling the side roads while the checkpoints were operational was also terminated.

These enforcement activities are within the authority of the Border Patrol and increased the effectiveness of the checkpoints.


2 posted on 08/05/2005 1:38:30 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


3 posted on 08/05/2005 1:39:14 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Happy2BMe
Congressman Darrell Issa recently said, “Closing the Temecula and San Clemente checkpoints would improve the Border Patrol’s chances of catching undocumented immigrants and seizing illegal drugs.”

HUH?

4 posted on 08/05/2005 1:44:34 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


5 posted on 08/05/2005 1:44:52 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Happy2BMe

I think we should use Baja California as a model. As a white male, I get stopped and completely searched no less than 4 times, and sometimes 5 times when I drive from San Diego to the tip of Baja. Racial profiling, guys with machine guns, and complete searches are the norm in Mexico, why not here?


6 posted on 08/05/2005 2:01:36 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: calcowgirl
The Temecula and San Clemente checkpoints are 70 miles or so away from the Mexican border. They are there for one reason: Mexicans who get preclearance from U.S. Consulates in Mexico are given cards that allow them to travel within 30-75 miles from the border (depending on the state) to go shopping or visit relatives.

These secondary checkpoints are supposed to be used to stop those precleared Mexicans from visiting the rest of the country without a visa.

Congressman Issa's basically saying that the agents who man these checkpoints would be better utilized if they were placed closer to the border, or given tasks like checking the legal status of immigrants looking for work in the Home Depot parking lot. He may be right on that.
7 posted on 08/05/2005 2:03:32 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: cabojoe
Racial profiling, guys with machine guns, and complete searches are the norm in Mexico, why not here?

Because we have a constitution that it still somewhat recognized.

8 posted on 08/05/2005 2:12:03 PM PDT by Bear_Slayer (Montani semper liberi !)
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To: conservative in nyc; Ajnin; Marine Inspector

Baja, Temecula pings.


9 posted on 08/05/2005 2:15:57 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: conservative in nyc

That would seem to make more sense. If you are an illegal and you know where the checkpoints are, you'd just avoid them. If you rotate the checkpoints, then you have them constantly off balance. Part of the problem comes simply from the way in which burearcrats think, and we all saw this during the Arizona Minutemen gathering. Officials claimed that it was hurting border enforcement since the number of illegals caught in that area declined dramatically. So, they determine whether or not a program is effective simply by numbers caught, totally ignoring whether or not fewer attempts at crossing were made. (And this is not because they have a vested interest in allowing illegals to cross - it's just that it is a much easier proposition to actually count numbers of arrests versus a decrease in attempted crossings.) Yes, having fixed checkpoints may mean increased arrests - AT THAT SINGLE LOCATION. But what is happening in the areas that are now not monitored at all because you've concentrated the resources on one known area? If the resources became mobile again, while number of actual arrests might decline, I would also bet that the total number of attempts made to cross would also dramatically decline as well. And the number that counts is not how many are arrested and sent back, but how many actually enter illegally. It would seem to be the most cost effective to create the situation where they realize their chances of success are slim - then they won't bother to make the attempt.


10 posted on 08/05/2005 2:35:00 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: Bear_Slayer
Because we have a constitution that it still somewhat recognized.

I guess that's why I've sat in a holding area for two hours, subjected to searches with guys with guns while trying to cross back into the US, with proof of citizenship. Yup, the constitution forbids that...um ok.

11 posted on 08/05/2005 2:35:09 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: Bear_Slayer

We don't have to extend the constitution to stinking Mexicans.


12 posted on 08/05/2005 2:38:53 PM PDT by RATkiller (I'm not communist, socialist, Democrat nor Republican so don't call me names)
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To: RATkiller
The Constitution should not ever be extended to illegals. However, it is a really bad idea for machine gun toting border agents to pullover every browned skin person they feel like harassing. next it will be any white skinned person, short haired, long haired, &etc.

I'm not ready for a police state yet.

13 posted on 08/05/2005 2:45:34 PM PDT by Bear_Slayer (Montani semper liberi !)
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To: cabojoe
if you have valid proof of citizenship to the US, then the Constitution, specifically the 4th amendment, forbids that?

I can only tell you how it should work. I can't make them obey the consitution.

14 posted on 08/05/2005 2:48:27 PM PDT by Bear_Slayer (Montani semper liberi !)
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To: RATkiller; Happy2BMe








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15 posted on 08/05/2005 3:14:59 PM PDT by devolve (------- http://tinypic.com/99klxf.gif --FoxLicense.gif --350x220 --try-544x350-- Poncho!-- Adios!--)
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To: Happy2BMe

The similarities with the war on drugs is striking.


16 posted on 08/05/2005 3:31:28 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Our so-called "leaders" support the immivasion.

They are Quislings.

Quisling: a synonym for traitor, someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country.


U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.


17 posted on 08/05/2005 4:25:59 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Happy2BMe
I just sit here amazed at how vile our politicians are. I know they have been bought off by lobbyists from Mexico and lobbyists from slave labor, but gee - doesn't any of these wretched people ever think of the future?

If they think they are going to be in politics and never be voted out because the illegal Mexicans love them, they are in for a big shock. Their fat rumps will be voted out and the Mexicans will have Mexican Senators and Representatives and the presidency - well no Mexican president could ever top what George Bush has done to this country.

We've already lost the country, as people all over America are being called racists and other names by the newspapers, churches and the very illegals who are primed to take over America spit in our faces, while they take tax money out of our hands.

I'm just sitting here watching our country go down. All my life I have feared the Communists and an attack from them. Never in my wildest imagination did I think our own politicians would turn into traitors before our eyes. Unbelievable.

18 posted on 08/05/2005 4:27:44 PM PDT by swampfox98 (How American became a nation of traitors: Greed, corrupt politicians and religious leaders.)
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To: swampfox98

I STILL can't believe it myself, but reality is reality.


19 posted on 08/05/2005 4:34:59 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: international american; swampfox98
I STILL can't believe it myself, but reality is reality.

I also agree with swampfox98's post. It's been gathering up steam for quite a few years now, but the past ten years has really seen an explosion of illegals. The in your face FU from most politicians is still just amazing to me.

Depressing as hell, ain't it.

20 posted on 08/05/2005 5:08:48 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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