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To: gopwinsin04

Seems to me neither McCain nor Guiliani will win the Republican nomination. Neither can assemble the core of the party: Conservatives.


4 posted on 08/03/2005 7:04:42 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Islam: Nothing BEER couldn't cure!)
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To: Brad Cloven

I agree with you. For better or worse, that's how it is. Whether I would like it to be different or not is irrelevant.

A scary thought: although it's clear the Republicans have a majority in Congress, state governorships, etc., is is not at all clear that there is a CONSERVATIVE majority nationally. The number of northeastern Republicans and other RINOs are of course part of the Republican mix.

I think that by and large when the battle is over ideas and principles the conservatives win.

I am very fearful that a third party challenge, some other Republican split or a lacklusted candidate could hand the White House to Hillary Clinton.

We have to be prepared for a tough fight.


8 posted on 08/03/2005 7:13:23 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Brad Cloven

Bingo! You are the winner! When the SCOTUS ruled Oklahoma could continue its closed primary system this spring that meant the McCain/Rudy train had come to a screeching halt because it affected every State with a closed primary. Only way either of them could get the nomination is if they had open primaries.

Right now Oklahoma activists I know support Senator George Allen after our Convention this spring where he spoke. I made a contribution at the end of the June reporting period and a lot of Oklahomans I know did likewise. He can transfer his Senate campaign funds to his Presidential campaign so we are helping early. Have no doubt he is running for President in 2008 after the speech he gave us.

If anyone gets a chance to hear Senator Allen speak, please go -- he is a terrific speaker and personable person.


9 posted on 08/03/2005 7:13:47 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: Brad Cloven
Part of the conservative line for the last several yeas has been for dems to put aside some of their social issues in this grave time of war, and pick someone well suited to the war on terror (or better suited), along the lines of a Lieberman.

Now, conservatives will have to practice what they preach.

To me, the #1 issue is the war on terror. Rudy won't repeal the 2nd Amendment singlehandedly, and Rudy won't keep Roe from getting overturned (it's not getting overturned anytime soon).

I'm willing to compromise (which is what I have asked the dems to do - with no positive result). On abortion, as long as Rudy is on the right side of the 2008 issues (parental notification, federal funding, partial birth abortion, etc), he is ok by me. He still has a couple of years to modify and articulate his position on these - I'll give him the chance.

Otherwise, I'd be a phony. And I'm not a phony. Now it's time for our side to show that we can make the sacrifices that we have been asking dems to make.

Anything less would be infantile.
19 posted on 08/03/2005 7:32:27 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Brad Cloven

I believe Guiliani could, because from what I understand his core is more of a libertarian (which explains some of his socialy left issues).

What concerns me most about Guiliani is his stance on the second ammendment. I dont know if he passes the smell test on it. I have far greater concern over than that the other social issues.

Guiliani is a great leader. He is a far better leader than McCain or HRC would ever dream about being.


21 posted on 08/03/2005 7:35:18 AM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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