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Indignant Imams Flatten Teapot Deity's Commune (You Can't Make This Stuff Up Alert!)
Asia News ^ | August 2, 2005

Posted on 08/02/2005 3:51:20 PM PDT by NYer

2 August, 2005
MALAYSIA
Indignant imams flatten teapot deity's commune

They were adoring a giant teapot. They believed their founder was the incarnation of all deities.Armed with bulldozers, police and an Imam razed the buildings of this sect. They had many proselytes even among Muslims.

Kuala Lumpur (AsiaNews/Scmp) - Worshipping a giant teapot and claiming to be god in the unforgiving heartland of fundamentalist Islam is like waving a red banner at a bull. For nearly 25 years, Ariffin Mohammed, 65, a Muslim Malay better known as Ayah Pin or Father Pin, has been harassed, arrested and even jailed to force him to recant his `Sky Kingdom' faith and return to the true path of Sunni Islam.

He refused and finally, on Sunday, matters came to a head. Islamic clerics and police marched into the commune in Batu 13 village, in peninsular Malaysia's eastern Terengganu state, accompanied by bulldozers, arrested followers and tore down buildings, bringing down the curtain on a sometimes laughable but still unique interfaith commune.

"He had to be stopped," said Abdul Hamid Othman, head of Islamic affairs in Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi's office. "He violated the sanctity of Islam and his teachings were a threat to national security." But human rights activists condemned the action as a serious violation of fundamental liberty.

"They are innocent people who have been brutally attacked and traumatised," said Elizabeth Wong, secretary-general of the Malaysian Human Rights Association. "They have not broken any laws."

Started in the mid-1980s, the commune existed outside the national radar for many years until in 1998, when followers added the now famous Disney-like theme park structures - umbrella-shaped buildings, ornamental fishing boats, Greco-Roman pillars and the centrepiece of it all - a huge teapot and an equally large blue vase.

Despite the incongruity, or because of it, Mr Ayah began to win many followers - among villagers, educated urbanites put off by the rat race and even foreigners.

The teapot - symbolising the pouring of peace and blessing from heaven on humanity - became the symbol of the cult.

"I died when I was 10 years old and was reborn 40 days later. Since then I have died and been reborn 17 times," Mr Ayah says. "All things belong to me ... I am Ayah, I am the father, and I am the god." An illiterate former farm hand, Mr Ayah says he has visions in his dreams.

"He is the reincarnation of all the gods - Shiva, Buddha, Christ and the Prophet Mohammed," said James Lee, a disciple. The cult has no moral or religious strictures and all religions are acceptable because "all prayers end up with Ayah the god".

Official attitude hardened in mid-June amid widespread international media publicity and the realisation that Mr Ayah was winning over Muslims. First the cult was branded deviant. Then the local authorities ordered Mr Ayah to take down the structures. He refused. On July 2, the police raided the commune and arrested more than 50 followers. Sixteen days later a mob attacked the commune and set fire to some of the structures. On Thursday, 50 more followers were arrested. Then on Sunday came the bulldozer raid by police and Muslim clerics.

Nothing now stands of the once thriving commune of about 1,000 followers. The faithful are scattered across the country, many in hiding. Mr Ayah has disappeared, abandoning his four wives and 22 children. His Muslim followers are awaiting trial in Islamic courts while non-Muslims were set free.



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KEYWORDS: asianwaco; imam; islam; malaysia; muslim; religion; teapot; trop

1 posted on 08/02/2005 3:51:21 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

Is Pfizer involved?


2 posted on 08/02/2005 3:52:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
Just when you thought you had heard it all .......

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3 posted on 08/02/2005 3:52:22 PM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

If they stay true to form, they'll be building a mosque on that spot soon.


4 posted on 08/02/2005 3:53:15 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Free Michael Graham!)
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To: NYer
?



5 posted on 08/02/2005 3:54:53 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (Allah, is not... Akbar)
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To: NYer

"He violated the sanctity of Islam and his teachings were a threat to national security."

CLOSED TENT


6 posted on 08/02/2005 3:56:19 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: NYer

All-hail-the-holy-teapot BUMP!

Very interesting article, thanks for posting.


7 posted on 08/02/2005 3:57:20 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (As long as Dean's the head of the D-N-C, it just looks better for the G-O-P!!)
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To: NYer

"I'm a Little Teapot" will never sound quite the same after this...


8 posted on 08/02/2005 3:57:38 PM PDT by WestTexasWend
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To: NYer

"I am Ayah, I am the father, and I am the god." An illiterate former farm hand, Mr Ayah says he has visions in his dreams."


Ever notice that among believerrs in reincarnation, NOBODY ever claims to be an average illiterate dirt farmer(of whom the major of people were in history)They usually proclaim to be Cleoptra, Caesar or somebody famous. I have heard of several people who believe they were Napolean.


9 posted on 08/02/2005 3:59:33 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: NYer

Those Teapot worshipers will be boiling over about this. You know how they like to spout off.


10 posted on 08/02/2005 4:00:31 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: NYer
"Mr Ayah says he has visions in his dreams."

You betcha!!

11 posted on 08/02/2005 4:06:12 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: San Jacinto

"Those Teapot worshipers will be boiling over about this. You know how they like to spout off."

Allow me to finish..............."And blow off a little steam".


12 posted on 08/02/2005 4:06:15 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: WestTexasWend
"I'm a Little Teapot" will never sound quite the same after this...

Nor will the theme music to Jeopardy.

13 posted on 08/02/2005 4:07:29 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sicked and tired!)
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To: NYer

Think this action might have the British alarmed?


14 posted on 08/02/2005 4:10:00 PM PDT by Buggman (Baruch ata Adonai Elohanu, Mehlech ha Olam, asher nathan lanu et derech ha y’shua b’Mashiach Yeshua.)
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To: NYer

"... his teachings were a threat to national security."
***Maybe we should take a page out of their book.


15 posted on 08/02/2005 4:11:38 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: NYer
I think a good solid education of God always works better than the bulldozer. When children and young adults "know" their God, they stay away from cultists' cool-aid.

This is solid evidence to always review Catechism.
16 posted on 08/02/2005 4:12:13 PM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
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To: RedMonqey
I have heard of several people who believe they were Napolean.

Patton comes to mind.

17 posted on 08/02/2005 4:19:09 PM PDT by The Grammarian
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To: NYer

Please, no tempest in a teapot jokes.


18 posted on 08/02/2005 4:22:12 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (The Democrat party is the official party of the Morlocks.)
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To: NYer

Sir, that teapot is a threat to national security!

Sheesh! Talk about being insecure in your faith. That really is the basis of all Islamofasist violence; insecurity.


19 posted on 08/02/2005 4:23:36 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ("If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense to you!")
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To: San Jacinto; Lazamataz; Paul Atreides

arrgh!


20 posted on 08/02/2005 4:24:02 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: San Jacinto; Lazamataz; Paul Atreides; martin_fierro

arrgh!


21 posted on 08/02/2005 4:24:20 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: NYer

He should have set up shop in California.


22 posted on 08/02/2005 4:32:35 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: The Grammarian

Actually, Patton thought he was a marshal for Napoleon. ;^)


23 posted on 08/02/2005 4:40:55 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Unleash Karl Rove!!!)
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To: NYer
jailed to force him to recant his 'Sky Kingdom' faith


24 posted on 08/02/2005 4:44:05 PM PDT by Bars4Bill
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To: San Jacinto

It's a good thing they didn't get violent with this guy. He may be short, but he is stout.


25 posted on 08/02/2005 4:45:16 PM PDT by Romish_Papist (Papist. Veteran. American. Conservative. Tattooed. Pierced. Questions?)
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To: NYer
"Mr Ayah says he has visions in his dreams.

Isn't that the way the Prophet Mohammed (PIHF) got started? Could be a reincarnation.

26 posted on 08/02/2005 4:47:22 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: thoughtomator

Sounds like a potential teapot dome scandal in the making.


27 posted on 08/02/2005 4:58:33 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: PatrickHenry; RadioAstronomer
"An illiterate former farm hand, Mr Ayah says he has visions in his dreams."

I think I've seen several posters on FR who fit this description to a "tee."

28 posted on 08/02/2005 5:02:57 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: longshadow

Teach the controversy!


29 posted on 08/02/2005 5:24:25 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: NYer

," Mr Ayah says. "All things belong to me ... I am Ayah, I am the father, and I am the god." An illiterate former farm hand, Mr Ayah says he has visions in his dreams.

"ALL YOUR TEAPOTS ARE BELONG TO US"


30 posted on 08/02/2005 5:36:46 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: NYer

I didn't know Janet Reno had moved there.


31 posted on 08/02/2005 5:43:58 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: NYer

Mr. Ayah sounds a lot like Mohammed himself. I guess the Muslims were jealous.

Actually, he doesn't sound that much like Mohammed - I didn't see anything in Mr. Ayah's hallucinations about killing the infidel. Maybe the Giant Teapot is the true Religion of Peace (TROP®).


32 posted on 08/02/2005 5:44:23 PM PDT by livius
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To: Bars4Bill
LOL.

"Out of the blue of the Western Eastern sky comes...

33 posted on 08/02/2005 5:59:47 PM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (A socialist is just a communist who happens to be outgunned!)
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To: NYer
If the commune were here, most of the 'Christians' on FR would have wanted to do exactly the same thing, thought they would know they couldn't.

So what's the difference?

SO9

34 posted on 08/02/2005 6:13:36 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: NYer

Those Muslims really do get tea'd off at the littlest thing, don't they? I'd like to go over there and give them a fat Lipton.


35 posted on 08/02/2005 6:21:46 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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To: Servant of the 9
If the commune were here, most of the 'Christians' on FR would have wanted to do exactly the same thing

When did you poll 'most' of the Christians here to come up with that conclusion?

36 posted on 08/02/2005 7:36:23 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: NYer

It would have been even weirder if if the congregation did the "I'm a little teapot short and stout" dance as the bulldozers were coming.


37 posted on 08/02/2005 7:39:56 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: NYer
Up here in North Dakota, "Ayah" is consent. Used in a sentence:

Q: "Goin' up dere fishin' fer da pike den dere are yah Ole?"

A: "Ayah."

38 posted on 08/02/2005 7:40:38 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Islam: Nothing BEER couldn't cure!)
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To: piasa
If the commune were here, most of the 'Christians' on FR would have wanted to do exactly the same thing

When did you poll 'most' of the Christians here to come up with that conclusion?

I did it by ESP when they opened up to commune with Terri Schiavo.

SO9

39 posted on 08/02/2005 8:48:55 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: NYer

Worshiping a teapot is no stranger than bowing to a moon rock in Mecca.


40 posted on 08/03/2005 7:28:03 AM PDT by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: BenLurkin; NYer
Is Pfizer involved?

LOL! It's amazing what Magic Mushrooms will do to a kook who is already immersed in schizoid psychotic Muslimism. Almost as funny as our own kooks here.


41 posted on 08/03/2005 8:56:26 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: NYer
The teapot - symbolising the pouring of peace and blessing from heaven on humanity

So far, it sounds like a big improvement over the Death Cult.

42 posted on 08/03/2005 9:02:35 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: The Grammarian

Yeah, he's one I'm gonna be in my next life time, haha.


43 posted on 08/04/2005 9:03:35 AM PDT by RedMonqey
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